Considering how expensive it is to insure Teslas due to their business practices, I would be fearful of how expensive insurance will be for a vehicle that sells in low volume, uses panels made of materials no other car uses, that requires special handling to make, and provided by just one manufacturer. Who in their…

Note that this is the second level 3 system in the world- a limited edition Honda Legend had level 3 last year but Japan market only. I’d be curious to know how that’s going- i haven’t heard anything about it recently.

OP is also assuming that people will actually invest all of that money instead of thinking “I’m flush with cash, what else can I blow it on?”

Cant’ i have both?

Tesla’s strongest competitors are most definitely all in on EVs. Kia EV6 was the EV of the year last year. Ford Mach-E’s with BlueCruise had the best ADAS. Bolts are half the price but provide almost all the real world benefit. Taycans give the Model S a good run for its money. All of them are considered better bolted…

Didn’t Erin Brockovich get rich of this shit?

which ones are those?  I haven’t heard anything about it.

I wouldn’t buy one, but as always, the Supercharger network is the killer app...  I think it’s the primary reason Tesla stays on top of the EV game and why they’re so reluctant to open it up to everyone even if it would net them a ton of money.

The one thing that doesn’t seem well known is that this only affects models with an actual key. Anything with push button start isn’t affected. So it’s not even half or maybe even a quarter of the cars and mostly the bottom end models at that. But the whole lineup is affected with that negative reputation.

I know some folks who work in service for {ALL CAR MAKERS}.  No thanks.

haha, they’re out there. I’ve come across some when looking for a 911. “Stripper” model is probably an overstatement since no option cars still have a lot of content but there are must have options for 911s if you want to experience them as an ultimate sports GT. 

that is 100% not a true statement. But at the same time, I don’t want a base Carrera with no options. There are better cars to drive and enjoy for that much money. If you’re buying a Carrera, at least get the options that increase enjoyment and performance, i.e. a Carrera T or a Carrera S. Otherwise, the base model…

“ I don’t care about the targa top and the other ‘special’ things this example has.”

911s don’t behave as the market behaves. it’s more like the e30 m3 market. I don’t understand why exactly because they’re not exactly limited production. But I do know my 911 (997S) seems to be worth about 30% more now than when I bought it.  My buddy’s older 911 is up in the 80k-100k range now and it’s like 40 years…

I drive my 911 an average of 1000-1500 miles a year.  The main reason is because i have other cars and a family and stuff to lug around.  But the secondary one is because every time I drive my 911, I want that drive to feel special.  corny, but true.

Either you want a targa and are willing to pay a hefty premium or you don’t and aren’t. Barely anyone cross-shops a standard coupe vs a targa.

we sometimes drive to within maybe a mile or two of where we want to go, where parking is easy, and just rideshare in.  not expensive, not time consuming.  in fact, usually faster.  it’s not one or the other.

Yeah but not everybody trying to corner the charging infrastructure market has multiple streams of income. Where else does EVGO, Blink, Chargepoint or ElectrifyAmerica make money? If one of the major manufacturers like GM/Ford/Toyota/VW bought one or more of the major companies AND either standardized on one of the…

I mean, the cars don’t suck- they’re still pretty good cars in a lot of ways.  But actually, there are a lot of players trying to do it because IT IS a good business.  The problem is really standards.  And competing against Tesla which has multiple streams of income.  Every one of these competitors is trying to win…

I think you underestimate the value of the supercharger network- it is the single factor that keeps Tesla on top of all other EVs.  Once they open that network to all EVs, they could stop making cars and be a fabulously profitable company if they wanted to almost overnight while snuffing out almost all competition in…