I literally just posted this morning wondering if this would finally do it for her. Glad that was the case, even if she should have filed, you know, immediately after she found out about all of this.

Things are so bad there and there’s so little anyone inside or especially outside the country can do. We haven’t been able to send supplies in so long because it’s futile - packages regularly get stolen or “confiscated” all the time. But the people have been starving and going without basic necessities (see: toilet…

The “unrealistic” is what really got me. Like, noooo... this is incredibly realistic. Women are dealing with very similar shit right now worldwide.

The only people I know who think it is unrealistic are men.

“but at one point he accused me of trying to “educate him””

Well how fucking DARE you. 

“Yup. Homophobia in the erstwhile USSR was quite rampant too (as was Anti-Semitism) and they were supposedly atheist.”

I was on my phone and unable to edit. I’m home now, so... I know the argument, and that even in certain medical journals it was listed as a masturbation deterrent. I remember that. But as far as how it became popular in the west I guess we can both offer links to prove our position. But tell me, if a man wasn’t…

“FGM” is not to broad. The word “female” is right in there. “Female” refers to biological sex, not gender. You can’t “identify” as female. You’re either female or you’re not. It’s a biological classification. You can identify as a woman regardless of what genitalia you were born with, but “female genital mutilation”…

The only people making it a contest are the ones that need to steam roll every conversation about FGM. Whose comment is at the top, here?

Except they’re doing it in Egypt to stop their daughters from becoming whores who men from good families won’t marry. So no, we do not look at circumcision and female genital mutilation the same. They are done for completely different reasons.

In this case, it’s even worse. This doctor allegedly performed infibulations on these girls, removing their labia minora and closing the opening to the vagina.

I have never seen a thread anywhere about FGM that doesn’t end up swamped with men talking about male circumcision and how convinced they are that their lives have been ruined by it.

No, amputating a girl’s labia isn’t “kinda close” to a male circumcision, an arguably outdated but still minor procedure developed by men to reduce men’s vulnerability to STDs and skin diseases prior to antibiotics and modern hygiene. What a disgusting thing to say. Own your privilege as someone assigned male at birth…

I am 100% against circumcision and it is horrifying to watch but it is not at all similar to removing the labia and hood. Neither in the resulting level of mutilation/damage done or how involved the procedure would be. It is not a contest but it is also not equivalent and needs to stop being brought up whenever FGM is…

You’re right, it shouldn’t be treated as a contest. Which is why when people chime in with “whataboutthis” on every single FGM article that ever existed, they should be righteously told the shut the fuck up and take a seat.

Circumcision doesn’t have anything to do with this. There is absolutely no reason why women can’t have a fucking conversation without being drowned out by men. I am so tired of it that I honestly don’t know what to do.

Not even close, but white guys just want to feel like victims too! Anti-circumcision guys are really, shall we say, passionate, about their cause, so are often much more vocal.

Quite. It’s why it’s very important that we retire calling genital mutilation “female circumcision”; the life-changing results simply aren’t comparable.

Yep. Well, honestly, it needs to be remember that it isn’t the same thing at all. What’s removed in FGM is not equivalent removing the foreskin. It’s equivalent to emasculation — removal of all or at least part of the glans.

I just read about this story in the Washington Post, and whaddya know, the comment section is full of idiot menz shouting “WHY DOES THIS ONLY GET ATTENTION WHEN IT’S GIRLS? WHAT ABOUT THE FORESKIN?”