BMW expected to sell ~30,000 per year, and they sold 210,000 between 2014 and 2021... ~30,000 per year.

the biggest problem with the i3 was not the electric range, it was the fact that the range extender couldn’t keep the battery charged (i.e. even when running as hard as it could, it couldn’t recharge faster than the battery depleted in normal driving) forcing you to still stop and recharge on a long trip.

Did you even ask for a different car as a loaner?

The people who crashed were probably capitalists, so it’s OK.

Yeah, ID.4 seems pretty good for trips. I, personally, wouldn’t be nervous about road-tripping with one... but I would plan ahead.

Oh yeah, I’m not complaining about it. In fact, I actually prefer it to real leather because it’s basically indestructible.

Yeah, EVs really don’t like when the 12V dies, it seems. I know the i3 and Tesla both technically are supposed to tell you when it’s getting close to dying, but sometimes there’s no real warning and boom... basically bricked.

Most of them just want a vehicle that’s mostly like what they have now, but electric. Tesla is too far off of normal for those buyers.

I still wonder about Tesla being labeled a luxury vehicle. It has leather seats (maybe). Beyond that I don’t think the EV aspect qualifies as luxury.

FWIW, it sounds like what happens when the 12V battery dies... and this is what happens when a BMW i3 12V dies, too : All sorts of crazy warnings and nothing works and you think “this is going to cost me 5 figures to fix”... and then you slap in a new 12V and it’s all better.

If Tesla wants to expand it’s market share, they’re going to have to start caring about build quality.

The kind of people who buy Teslas already have at least one other car in their garage they can drive when the Tesla fails. No one cares about quality because it is still a status toy and not a working tool.

Sure, there are some. But I think it’s a smaller percentage of “Republicans” that are *inherently* anti-EV than one might think. They’re all driving turbo V6 F-150s, now, when many thought their identity was tied to V8s, too. They’re anti-tiny-electric-crapbox and…

My neighbor wears a Desantis 2024 hat and has a reservation for a Lightning.

Why bother with getting more details when you can just make some dumb assumptions about someone who died!

Exactly. This is the same as the hand-wringing about the Ecoboost and the Aluminum panels: As long as the truck is substantially better (and for all but trips/towing, it is better in many ways), people are going to buy it.

Who ever wins the “range wars” will win the day on these first gen EV trucks.

You can’t order a Lightning, now. Orders don’t open until October 26. There’s not configurator because the options and pricing aren’t finalized, yet, but they will be within a couple weeks.

Yeah, it *sorta* makes sense that the smaller, Range-Rover-in-italics is called “sport”.

Those examples just make it seem even more like it’s just name recognition since they eventually dropped the names.