you forgot: and they drive like crap.

JK’s are the new ricers.

In my opinion, this vehicle is ugly and I hate it.

Not terrible, but like the current Toyobaru twins, certainly far from wowing. I’ve always thought S2000's were overrated. Every time I drive one I think maybe the cars in between will have changed my perspective and allow me to have that ‘aha’ moment. Never happens.

You can have an impressive handling, well equipped car that still has shit build quality:

“We can all agree that there’s an inverse relationship between how interesting a car is and how reliable it is.”

Judging a car on the infotainment system is like complaining about lack of cup holders.

He wants older not 2002.

Every time I see one of these on the road, I think to myself, “Did you just not test drive anything else?”

Just remember this, people paid money for this. They went on the internet, saw it, and decided to go buy it anyway. These people had seen other cars on the road and still thought this was a good idea. Actual money was exchanged for this.

Pushrods are a tool just like overhead camshafts are a tool. They perform a task. Pushrods help provide a compact, lightweight, relatively simple motor that can produce amazing fuel economy AND power affordably. Overhead cams do the same thing but add weight, complexity, larger overall package size and (it seems)…

It’s a donk version of Mazda 121. And Mazda was a Landaulet.

For my money the worst interior from that time, and possibly ALL time, was the Dodge Caliber’s. My friend was subjected to a loaner, and both of us cut ourselves on the plastic seams. But by god...just look at it:

What’s wrong with pushrods? Is it just that it’s a proven design that frees up a ton of engine bay or do you own a timing belt company or something?

Yikes. Enthusiasts poo-pooing more performance options? Where am I right now??

I understand why they went alphanumeric - something about how it translates better in international markets. However I feel like they missed an opportunity to revive an older naming scheme which still fits that purpose, but sounds far better and more in line with Cadillac’s heritage.

History was made a year ago and it was posted here a year ago too.

Came here for exactly this, so hat tip to you.

A CHARIOT FOR A GOD

928's would fare well with good visibility at least, and they would finally be rear engined so all the purists can quit bitching.