See, this was such an all-over-the-place blubber-a-thon that someone else had to link up the logic for me. If Rebel Girl’s gender (woman) and biological sex (male) are distinctly different (isn’t that what trans people want everyone to be accept - that GENDER comprises identity?) how in the Hell is penile…

If you’re “born women” what are you transing to? Lol you’re just a guy who thinks he’s woman because he wears dresses and makeup. Way to reduce women to just a caricature of what men want.

FGM is a problem for biological girls and women FULL STOP. Ladies please save your breathe and not engage others. They don’t care and I am fine with their opinion because I have mine.

Just to clarify, this person is not referring to the decision to have sexual reassignment surgery. She’s talking about having been circumcised when she was a baby.

Would you mind explaining to me how the penis is female genitalia on a woman’s body? Is there some school of gender theory I haven’t heard about that has ditched the distinction between gender and biological sex, and re-sexes organs based on gender identity?

Fun Story about American Sex and Science Education:

First of all, you are a male, with a penis. Who suffered male genital mutilation. Stop trying to colonize women’s issues. Second, you really can’t see how petty and childish and straight up ridiculous you are coming off by trying to change the focus onto your own issues? This is not a competition you know? The story…

I wish I was surprised that one of the first comments on a FGM article was about the damage done to penises, but I’m not.

If you’re going to pretend to be intersectional feminists, the phrase is “genital cutting”.

I don’t know how we combat this here. Perhaps get doctors involved when kids go through their routine checkups etc - and target at risk communities - basically tell them if you do this stupid ignorant thing your family will be taken from you and you WILL go to jail.

I agree with you that effective change can’t be forced from the outside, but what about the agency of the girls who have not been cut yet? How can the rights of both sets of women be protected?

YES. It’s crazy to me that there’s no mention of charges against the parents who made this happen.

“We cannot dismiss the agency of these women in their compliance with their cultural practices.”

No, amputating a girl’s labia isn’t “kinda close” to a male circumcision, an arguably outdated but still minor procedure developed by men to reduce men’s vulnerability to STDs and skin diseases prior to antibiotics and modern hygiene. What a disgusting thing to say. Own your privilege as someone assigned male at birth…

I am 100% against circumcision and it is horrifying to watch but it is not at all similar to removing the labia and hood. Neither in the resulting level of mutilation/damage done or how involved the procedure would be. It is not a contest but it is also not equivalent and needs to stop being brought up whenever FGM is…

Circumcision doesn’t have anything to do with this. There is absolutely no reason why women can’t have a fucking conversation without being drowned out by men. I am so tired of it that I honestly don’t know what to do.

Aid groups/NGOs working to combat it often state that it’s local women who are the hardest to convince, particularly grandmothers.

“special girls trip”

I am not surprised in the least that this doctor is a woman. FGM is often insisted upon by the women who have themselves endured it. I’m no fan of Ayaan Hirsi but she is clear that her father opposed the procedure, and her grandmother secreted her away from the home to undergo it. As well as another case profiled on…

Quite. It’s why it’s very important that we retire calling genital mutilation “female circumcision”; the life-changing results simply aren’t comparable.