They only sell them in California, and while half the recent population of Seattle comes from California, I wouldn’t expect to see a low-production and low-range compliance special EV unless you got really lucky.

Yeah that was about 5 paragraphs of insane ranting. 

Id be interested to see if these ebikes end up as anything useful or just a paint job on a cheapo bike shaped object at 2x the price.

I-5 through the Fife curve just east of Tacoma WA. It is a simple 5 lane interstate curve that is nearly always choked with traffic due to being at the exit for Port of Tacoma, the Emerald Queen Casino, and the exits for the car-centric suburban shitholes to the east of Tacoma.

Its in the name right there! Minivan Design X (MDX).  Just waiting for @someoneatacura to log back in and tell me how wrong I am. 

They all have the bones of a minivan, because they’re 4 different takes on the same wagon.

Well, couldn't have happened to a nicer company. I know some guys who have worked for Boeing suppliers and, well, they didn't love it.

Naw dawg  pedelec and kid seats and I'm good 

So, what's your point?

I try to bike everywhere. It doesn’t always work, but it’s better than driving.

I fuckin swear the Longview skippers in the Wal-Mart parking lot is the only one I have seen, and it's basically a family owned fish and chip shop with skippers over the door.

Well, maybe, the Midwest exists, after all.

What in the goddamn holy fuck are you talking about? 

Yeah, this is my comment too. What are those vans, and why don't we get them in the us?

Like where? Why is communism always the opposite of whatever we’re doing now? Aren’t there other ways of organizing human society that aren’t reliant on the transfer of value using money? Can you think of a few that you participate in right now?

Don’t forget driving through crowds of not white-supremacists! They know their audience!

“mental health problems” seems like a convenient excuse in this case, and I didn’t want to say that they were actually having mental health problems besides the evidence they were acting contrary to social norms and laws. Pathologizing shitty behavior is a thing.

Dunno, their actions seem to be pretty indicative of someone who is unmoored from typical social norms. That said, there’s people who are wonderful folks and who can probably act in front of a green screen and who are hot enough to lead a superhero movie so why stick with this person? 

These guys should be sent to prison and the company should be dissolved. This is egregious.

I don’t know how atkinson cycle engines work with forced induction; aside from that something like that would be great.