64", same as this, 1" shorter than the F150 short bed

VW is the new GM... cue the Atlas XUV in 3...2...1...

Can’t fit a sheet of plywood through that tiny little hatch

Came to say the same thing. Avalanche had that features as well as the Subaru Baja

Didn’t the Chevy Avalanche have something like this?

Find me a better suited car for hauling my 4 year old, while still pulling 40 mpg(I have the hybrid), I need my push button start, sun roof, and gadgets, able to fit a shit load of cargo in the back with seats folding down, and keep it under 30k. Simply stated we buy them because they work best as a family hauler. I…

Yeah, this thing will print money for Toyota. And I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t like it. When my wife’s Highlander lease is up, this would definitely be in the running for a replacement if she wants to downsize out of the 3rd row.

Agreed. Shit, with the right tires you can get most places with a 2wd vehicle.

It’s almost as if the vast majority of people view automobiles as appliances...

To be fair, trusting a 24 year old with an Aventador is like trusting a toddler with an AK

It’s the Land of the Fleeced and the Home of the Broke!

I remember when I got my new M3 in 2008, everyone wanted $4000+. We’re married, about 30 at that time, and missus only had one speeding ticket on record.

Laws don’t prevent anything.

Im not getting into a debate here, I learned long ago not to voice any of my opinions in public, especially on the Internet, and slipped up in this case. I could keep this going all day tomorrow, get you angry, get me angry, get a bunch of other people to start posting angry responses to me and to you, and it won’t…

Yes, but not necessarily by open carrying. I would think someone committing a crime with a gun would want to conceal it for as long as possible for an element of surprise. Again, you’d have to know how many of those gun deaths were the result of people who were legally permitted to have firearms (not felons) who were…

can you show me the correlation between open carry and gun deaths?

I did finish it. I’m not talking about hitting 212 in a mile. They say that the top speed of the car is 212 mph. Can it hit the stated top speed with the wing on? I doubt it since it lost 10mph in a mile with vs without the wing. Going that extra 32mph takes a lot of power.

We have a Bond-spec (for whatever that’s worth – it looks nice) Z3 in the family. It’s a 1997 – no roll hoops – that we picked up off-lease in 1999. I think it may have 40k on it now, but maybe not yet.

An automatic? Eeew. I scrolled up to see if I could reverse my “Nice Price” vote. But then I looked at that interior pic again, and yes that’s a stick shift, and in the text it says

Or you know, you could buy a car you can afford, which means one you won’t be upside-down on it for any notable point of time.