I assume that you have already done the big 5 in Utah? (assuming the SW reference). We loved Utah when we visited last spring. I live in CA and it’s a crying shame how many NP/M/F we have here that I have NOT seen in my 44 years.

I’m just here to say that’s fuckin’ interesting, man.

I thought Joanna’s headline was pretty minimizing. “THIS environmental scientist is fearful”? We’re ALL fearful!!!

Well, I am a bureaucrat.

Well, for the record, climate change is always going to have an overall negligible impact on the planet. It’ll be fine, it’s suffered worse.

Wait one goddamned minute. I was told ACTUAL LIQUID FREEDOM would be flowing through these pipelines. I am completely astonished today to find out they will only be pumping oil.

I’m all in for “World-wide Sanctions and collapse of the Global Economy”. I’m very bullish on that and have gotten all the right signals from Generalissimo Trump.

Yup. The only ‘oil security’ these pipelines are intended to bring is to the respective companies. The American people (especially the Native American people) can eff off and die as far as their executive officers, board members, and shareholders are concerned.

And I didn’t even get into fossil fuel subsidies.

Excellent information.

Just a ploy by us scientists so we can get rich off the grant money. Yep, so rich that I drive a compact car from the 90s, can’t afford to fix my septic system so I use an outhouse, and haven’t been on vacation in 3 years.

There are better wind towers being built. Also, BUILDINGS and outdoor cats kill the most birds. Turbines are much lower on the list. And then of course, climate change itself is a big bird killer.  http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

Myron Ebell is not a scientist, nor is he a technical person of any sort whatsoever. He has made his living by opposing environmental laws and regulations while funded by big oil and similar organizations that damage the environment. He is someone with a vested interest in denial, yet criticizes climate scientists and…

“Liberty our freedom” is a thing of beauty

Oh no! Its too late for me to edit my comment now.

None of this is true. According to Facebook and Fox News, these pipelines are being constructed to fight terrorism, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, and to liberty our freedom. Opposing these pipelines, according to Facebook, means you want to ban recess for kids because pussification participation trophy. …

How can anyone in at this point deny climate change? How can even the evilest of orange pussbags ignore the ramifications of not giving it the attention it deserves? If for no other reason, he has grandkids that will be living in the hell that this world is becoming.

I’m also in the environmental field and much more worried than I was under Bush.

Its also very important to stay informed. Everyone should know WHY the DAPL and Keystone pipelines are being built. It is so oil companies can capitalize on exporting crude. The moratorium on our 40 year old export ban was just lifted. The Bakken fields are already being pumped and have been in production for years.…