This is not a plan, and I won’t vote for some who can’t articulate how we can actually achieve any of his/her stated aims. He has not seriously engaged with the economics or politics of his proposals, and that’s a deal breaker for me when it comes to deciding who I actually want to run the country.

It’s going to be wonderful watching her fall back to earth in the eyes of the low information Splinter crowd. God help her if she has to compromise on something to maintain some minimal level of viability in Congress

When there is no real content to a politician’s message, you can drop little popcorn farts about them and run their campaign off the rails. It happens all the time. The reason why Sanders isn’t affected is because people like him for reasons of substance. Putting him down as “another old white male” or whatever may be…

Let me know how the discourse is keeping Bernie from raising over $6 million in small contributions on his first day in the running for 2020. Centrists aren’t the majority anymore. You are so marginal and minor, and yet you believe you have all this pull. The 24/7 attempts to make Kamala Harris happen, for example,…

Yeah, these people are part of a very loud like 5% of heavy Twitter users who really believe they can ram their version of reality down the rest of our throats. In their world, Sanders is a dried up husk who had his shot and jusr needs to recede into the background. In the real world, he’s the most popular politician…

Black voters don’t “tend to be” pragmatic. They’ve had to be highly transactional in their politics simply due to a dearth of options. The Democratic establishment has had them over a barrel for a long time. Let’s not confuse that with bona fide pragmatism.

Again, I give not the slightest of shits about Splinter. I’m just pointing out that they are bait for centrists, not actual news for leftists.

Well no, discourse gaming is when you say he took money from the NRA (he didn’t) and imply that he’s some sort of crypto gun-nut. Again, we all know that’s not true. But even more importantly, this little popcorn fart isn’t going to move Sanders supporters an inch. Gaming the discourse and trotting out BS talking…

They do. I didn’t believe this was a thing until I moved out to the sticks. Tons of people around here go out when deer season starts, get their one deer, and use it for meat for the rest of the year. These aren’t raving gun nuts.

I have no personal investment in either site. Splinter is designed to piss off centrists, which means they aren’t saying a whole lot of interest to begin with. The Root, by contrast, seems designed around the idea that black people are monolithically in the political center. There are nods to radical politics here and…

And the thing is, if they don’t grin and bear it, they’ll be revealing just how hypocritical they are. Either way is fine with me. We need to come to a reckoning about how things really are.

Great, then we’ll just wait and see how it plays out. The constant, though, is that what you and I say here will have no effect on the outcome. People will vote how they will vote, and no amount of talking points will change that.

Literally nobody cares about these constant dramatic “twists” w/ identity politics. No, the craft beer community isn’t racist. If you care about shit, hype that shit yourself. That’s kind of how it works. If people aren’t talking about what you want to talk about, start talking about it. Don’t say, “you aren’t talking…

If AOC endorses him over Harris I’m going to punch a wall.

You sound more like you’re trying to convince yourself of Sanders’s unpopularity with non-whites than like you’re actually describing reality. You can sit there all day and hope the polls are somehow magically, disastrously wrong re: Sanders’s popularity, but at the end of the day, people are going to vote how they’re…

Splinter has the commenters it deserves now.

Sorry, but discourse-gaming isn’t going to tank Sanders’s campaign. You can spew as many talking points as you like. People are going to vote how they’re going to vote. Dude is the single most popular politician in the country and is raising money from ordinary folks like a beast. If you think sniping at him from The…

Yes, it’s fake news. And it isn’t going to work. You’ve gotta love how these people really think Sanders supporters are going to see, “Bernie takes money from the NRA!” and just uncritically change their minds and decide to stop liking him. They really think they can game the discourse in order to tank his campaign.…

I just want to make sure what the rules are here and which ones Bernie fans are allowed to just ignore as if they didn’t exist.

Few give a shit. If you think this is going to be some viral gotcha that tanks his campaign, you are officially the dimmest bulb in the room.