"Savitar couldn’t have given himself his powers unless he already had
those powers, but he couldn’t have had them before he gave them to
himself. So who does that leave? Thawne again?"

I think everyone hopes it won't be a speedster but when you take speedster villains out of the equation there's not many compelling ones left apart from Grodd. It would be weird if they set him up as a season long big bad.

I think Arrow has been much lighter than Flash this season since it stopped taking itself too seriously and became a bit meta. Flash has been waaaaay to mopey for 2 seasons now although it is pure comic book in a way that Arrow hasn't been since season 2.

but the voice lives on

That would be cool but I think he just ages slower rather than being immortal. He can heal quicker from wounds that you or I would eventually heal from but if you were to stab him in the heart he'd die.

He's basically been telling Barry 'I'm your future'. If it isnt FF they can fuck off.

I'm still rooting for him to be Future Flash

Kinda strange how in the opening voiceover Barry says 'I saw Savitar murder the woman I love and I am the only one fast enough to stop him' even though a few weeks back he straight up tells Wally that he's not fast enough and needs Wally to stop him instead.

Pleeeeeeease let this be the start of the Future Flash story arc with Savitar as Future Flash.

Fair point. Still, that's a whole lot of violence, what is this, Star City?

He's just a mopey waste of a man. His whole thing about feeling inferior because his best mates are super powered aliens makes very little sense. Surely he can see that he's no vigilante. Apart from street thugs he gets his ass handed to him by anyone powerful.

I did think how many bank robberies happen that early in National City? Or was the sex that good Mon-El was in coma for a week.

The next day at the DEO:

He's at home fixing his broken camera.

Thank fuck for Mon-EL. Seriously, I know people hate him but for me he's great. The guy's funny and he just states the obvious when no else does. The guy even wondered what the hell James did. He just had him pegged as handsome desk guy, which sums up Olsen.

I wouldn't say it was terrible. It was solid with occasions of greatness.

He would make an awesome Shazam

Yeah I did give her a chance but I gave her an out by saying that I knew she probably didn't feel the same but I just needed to tell her and get it off my chest. We're still good friends so it's all good

It's cool. It's life.

I think I got into the realm of hate watching it. Couldn't stand Fish Mooney or James 'I have to shout at everyone, even my girlfriend' Gordon.