Key and Peele are Republicans???????

Also Boots may have had an axe to grind because his movie didn’t get proper European distribution and I’d guess Spike’s did. Not to mention ultimate BO dollars.

She had a consensual three way with two young black men. She may have felt this experience was bad all by herself or she may have known that if anyone found out about it she would be perceived differently. In order to get ahead of a potentially negative narrative, she lied.

While it was buried by the media that wanted to protect Argento (read: all mainstream and left wing media) in her role as a leader of this movement, some photos were published of her and a reporter who had helped tell her story (I honestly forget what story he personally wrote - think it was Cannes and MeToo related…

What? I’m talking about narratives within this community. I see the rhetorical out it offers, but you’re trying to conflate discussions that take place in micro spaces with the macro spaces. Jezebel are exercising caution, where they have not remotely exercised caution before. The Aziz Ansari story tripped some wires…

Yesssssss!!! Yaaaaassss!! The sensible middle who are committed not just to appearing woke but to the actual function of social change and not just to the transfer of power but to actual pursuit of equal opportunity emerges!!! We’re doing this stepped pyramids! 

So the overreach/power grab architected by some of the foundational thinkers in the identity politic movement is revealed to have been that, about not equality but a transfer of power, and these individuals are struggling with the fact they have architected their own doom? Maybe they should have looked at how all far…

Would you have held that standard if the one accused was a man? It’s a legitimate question. You are not wrong, but there is a caution being exercised with Ronell and Argento that was offered to what men?

Let’s not forget that Argento is using a dead man who can’t speak for himself to defend herself. A man who committed suicide within hours of photos of her cheating on him were published. She then used Rose McGowan to give tell to the lie they were in an open relationship.

You’re spinning your wheels. What the Washington Post did was not “believe women”. It was literally vetting a woman’s accusation. I don’t understand why you are belaboring this point.

These styles don’t account for changes that come from relationships you form over time. They were developed in observing babies with their mothers in, as far as I remember, the 70s.

I apologize for not keeping my points sharp enough.

Narcissists gonna narcissist.

We do have to vet whether they are victims and we would rightly elect (and will no doubt now) vet who of the victims leads the movement. We have reacted to, at least in recorded history, a silencing of women by saying more or less that women don’t lie, have no good reasons to lie, that there is no upside to a lie,…

How does one choose which women to believe based on that advice?

Prove that. You can’t. And we also had in evidence their five year relationship. This does not mean the initial assault didn’t happen. And we do have good reason to believe that he abused many women because the average person doesn’t get accused by this many people. We have no proof their initial encounter wasn’t…

I agree with you! And with your point on WW. I made it myself months back. I’m not sure why you’re snarking at me but we probably occupy a lot of the same space.

I guess I should accept your condescension as part and parcel of the internet as well?

This is what I am saying. Especially re: saintliness. But beyond this I do mean to make clear that when you don’t vet people well, yes, you succeed in giving a wide berth of potential victims a voice. But you also risk that opportunists will see this wide berth and use it for their own gains. There are people who have…

“Believe women” has been defended on this site and countless others as sound policy. Its just a slogan today, but where the far left has influence it has become the order of the day. People trot out numbers in support of it. 98% of accusations aren’t false (sources, of course, thin). You don’t do that unless you are…