I was not suggesting it negated that fact. I was suggesting that Argento was raised up by, yes, a mob and its enablers in the media, not simply as someone who had been victim, but as a leader of this movement. She literally stood on stage at the Cannes festival and gave a straight faced speech about MeToo while…

Distinction without a difference

Yes! It does undermine it! Asia Argento has used countless people. She is not like countless other Weinstein accusers. She was in a five year relationship with him. Can abuse take place in or precipitate a relationship? Yes, of course. But it makes the claims more dubious.

I made a clear distinction at the top of my post between the MeToo movements victims/accusers/abusers/accused and the rage machine that does not vet any accusations and is simply looking to feed itself. I don’t want victims to get their comeuppance. You’re twisting my words. I want the mob to stop acting like a mob.

You’re right to an extent, but MeToo isn’t just the accusers and victims who have given voice to their abuse and it isn’t just the accused and abusers. It’s the internet mob and the coverage they eventually birthed in mainstream publications. What this does for that group is demand that “victims” not go unvetted as…

The only thing that won’t be surprising about any of this is that Grimes will shit all over Elon in attempts to find a return into her weird space. I doubt people in it will accept her with open arms but then again she’s kind of the poster child for queerish weirdish but actually straight from upper middle class…

Nick is as flat as the piece of blank paper a female (and male!) audience will project themselves onto.

Saw CRA and was a bit flummoxed by the reception. It could be added to a string of movies that might as well say “REPRESENTATION” in their titles, that have received a clear bump in positive *critics* reviews that seem almost patronizing in nature. Now I’m unlikely to find many here who haven’t accepted without second…

While your party conversational partner sounds like a dunce, I think it is fair to say pursuit of objective truths can exist outside of an ecosystem of advocacy. What we are experiencing now outright lying and the selection of misrepresentative truths at the poles of the political spectrum.

Re your last point here. There is a cognitive dissonance, at best, concentrated within some of the intersectional left. At worse, it is cynical rhetorical flourishes designed to have an impenetrable defense to any criticism.

One hundred percent with you on all of this. The reality is that the political center and even more specifically the politicians who have been able to individually sustain power over decades have completely become rigid. This is because for a while things were good and we kept electing these people. But eventually the…

Oof please understand that’s not what I meant! I was already primed to think that could be misconstrued. I have to feel you’re here in good faith tho and I am too. I absolutely understand any sex worker is a real person. I simply meant they are acting in these clips, and their characters are not supposed to be sex…

I agree. Her response was cheap and did not elevate discourse. I do think Shapiro also behaved cheaply and dishonorably with his invitation. Why offer money? I think on some level it plays into a psyche you see in some straight porn atm. A lot of offering women (pornstars/prostitutes pretending to be normal women) mone…

Exactly. It’s all about group catharsis and not remotely about actually achieving the change. There’s a lot of interesting tangential thoughts I could bring up, but these vocal types are essentially early adopters. They’re the ones who liked the band before you did and actively don’t want you to like the band, because…

I fucking like you. That was a kick ass fucking awesome response. You’re right. You’ve convinced me. I’ve seen a certain type of liberal intellectual wipe the floor with him. But perhaps he is less likely to engage in certain chicanery when he perceives his opponent as intellectually on par with him.

Honestly it wasn’t my intention to offer a cheap rebuttal of you. If we were talking face to face this would go quicker. But you said: “[Shapiro’s intentions are]...not to have a good faith debate, but to shout her down with a rapid fire succession of his little talking points, filled with half-truths and outright…

Okay. Then what have protests on campuses and BLM protests been about? Because what you described seems to be fairly synonymous with a particularly popular brand of protest in the last five years. 

I’ve seen liberals debate Shapiro and show him for the husk he can be. He’s obviously a capable debater and, yes, some of that means using rhetorical flourishes. I hope everyone here recommending your comment also finds the manner in which some BLM protests go down and other recent protests equally egregious and…

I’ve seen plenty of intelligent people bat away Shapiro. This makes her look weak and like the rest of the college far left crowd who are triggered by the mere notion of supporting their strong opinions within a debate. But she is weak. Which doesn’t really make her any different than 2/3 of politicians.

Uh? I get offering the money was stupid but its honestly just the sign of a conservative mindset that thinks it has value. Why would she not accept but reject the money?