It’s a foreign concept to a lot of the commenters here. 

Why do you need room for 4 if you have no family?

Could you post a picture of one? 

damnit...beat me to it...i knew i should have checked the comments first

Because Tesla drivers are like Prius drivers from the early 2000's so people hate them and can’t separate the consumer from the product. On the flipside nobody on this website can comprehend anyone being an auto enthusiast but not being obsessed with worn out 90's commuter cars.

Points for the Q3 reference. Caught me so off guard it made me tear up from laughter lol

They can try to explain it away but an extra 166 miles of range is what the consumer really wants.  After 7 years it’s pretty clear that Tesla makes a reasonably safe vehicle as long as you don’t turn on autopilot and then fall asleep.

I get that, but no one is buying them. But everyone, and I mean *everyone* is just getting slaughtered by Tesla. It’s not even remotely close.

The Model S came out in 2012. They may have taken some risks and done on-road beta testing, but for the most part, that seems to have paid off.

Tesla offered their interface as a standard. Competitors refused, thinking it would allow Tesla a competitive advantage. 

Eh, most real world Tesla with substantial miles are seeing less than 10 percent degradation over 100k miles.

“if gas stations were allowed to...” - This is America, the ARE allowed to do this. They’d sell less gas if they did. Go back 100 years and you’d have cars that ran on proprietary fuel blends (ethanol, various ratios of oil mixtures, various octanes, etc.). A dominant standard will emerge at a given level of…

So you want to nationalize the Supercharger Network, a private asset financed by Tesla investors as a strategic advantage? That would be a perfect way to destroy it (see history of all nationalized assets ever). If VW, etc. want their own network, build it. If the US wants a nationwide charging network, build it.…

Maybe audi/porsche use the same “standards” as they did with their diesels..

Tesla has most of what’s been outlined here. Their battery packs monitor/cool/heat on per cell level. You can’t replace specific modules as easily, but who has needed to? (Tesla degradation is <1% per year and the packs built in the last few years have been /very/ solid) Teslas also have heat pumps on the motors as,…

Cutaways, real or illustrated, are the best car porn.  

Yes, but oil companies aren’t exactly known for their long-term sustainable business practices.

That still feels like an eternity. 

Perhaps because everyone else realizes trump is a dumbass and will be gone from office by next year.

Damn. I guess I’ll keep waiting for the Aerostar version.