I think there's also an element of just guilt by association, to some degree. If Jimmy is exposed as being sleazy in that way, and he was working on Sandpiper with HHM and Davis and Maine, and now with Kim, who used to work at HHM, and is the brother of Chuck, etc… there's just many degrees of involvement there that…

You're welcome.

If you don't like Mellon Collie and songs like "1979", et cetera, that's fair enough. But, I'd still say that the band was rightfully respected for their output in some of the 90's. They squandered what talent they had, and much of that is probably because they were a group of terrible fuckups, but they did write some…

Yeah, I knew Corgan was a big asshole, but I didn't know he was a dumb conservative asshole and conspiracy theorist.

I love Goggins.

Did he? Well, I'll give him that one, then. But he's still on the line for those OTHER murders…

Oh yes, you're right. I recall this. I mean, the big guy did show up to help them at the end there, and the three punks were there to sort of gloat about it, if I recall correctly. But you're right, and it reminds me of that scene… "Light up the eyes, boys!"

Suuuuure.

Agreed. There was a distinct tonal and temporal shift in the split between the first and second half of the final season. The break in the season helped to sell that difference in a big way. I'm not sure if they wrote for that split, or the split worked in its favor, but it helped it.

Is DC a usual meetup place for the group? I will be moving to Maryland, just outside of DC, next year.

Sure, whatever, that's true. This is one of the only times he uses them to directly shoot regular people to kill them, then drive the Batmobile through a vehicle filled with people to, also, kill them.

Maybe it means that Batman interrogated the person and likely got info out of them? But, add that to the list of things that makes no sense at all in the movie!

I don't disagree with you on the terrible writing part, but I think it's obvious that "murder is on the brain" though when you depict a Batman walking around with a gun, or stabbing a guy in the chest, etc. For instance, the warehouse scene when he's going to save Martha… he does some classic Batman style things there…

"Commisioner Gordon, let Robin take a look at the Riddler's riddles. My boy's WICKED SMAHT!"

I think Gone Baby Gone is incredible, though.

Fair enough, the "silliness" of it though comes from the juxtaposition of a superhero doing terrible, violent things in the film, though, and murdering more people than the villains actually do.

That could be true. Though the argument is made that he probably is, uh, beating them to death, pretty much, and just not realizing it. One of the funnier imaginings I've had in response to that argument is Daredevil standing with corpses of beaten thugs strewn all over the ground, and him patting himself on the back…

I think the point though is that the branding is also something that's relatively silly of an idea. Then again, I'm not a Frank Miller fan, and never was, and his take on Batman others appreciate more than I do.

That's true. All the cool ones are doing it.

Yes, that's the one that will forever be remembered in the anals(ahem, sic?) of history.