@avclub-53e4db6f596904f154b5efa09193e3ab:disqus It sounds like you feel about ST-IV the same way I feel about the J. J. Abrams.  I'm totally isolated among my friends but I think the Abrams is a shlockfest that sold out Trek in order to make it palatable to unengaged non-fans who wanted a dumb adventure movie.

@avclub-92a4841c9f86965effbc29fa6eae9f77:disqus "The lite jazz-pop in the soundtrack doesn't help with that, but that movie is still way fun."

@avclub-92a4841c9f86965effbc29fa6eae9f77:disqus "The lite jazz-pop in the soundtrack doesn't help with that, but that movie is still way fun."

@avclub-cb0e59b8f769a8698b9f7154dd8809b5:disqus "First Contact"?

@avclub-cb0e59b8f769a8698b9f7154dd8809b5:disqus "First Contact"?

@avclub-749a8e6c231831ef7756db230b4359c8:disqus Touché

@avclub-749a8e6c231831ef7756db230b4359c8:disqus Touché

Clint Howard and Dick Miller, it's almost a Roger Corman movie.

Clint Howard and Dick Miller, it's almost a Roger Corman movie.

Did we mention it has Dick Miller's one appearance in the Trek universe?

Did we mention it has Dick Miller's one appearance in the Trek universe?

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The "holodeck version of Lucy Liu" is really only one step away from "candid partially nude celeb shots magazine".

The "holodeck version of Lucy Liu" is really only one step away from "candid partially nude celeb shots magazine".

On the Republicans, no joke, I've known a lot of political conservatives that love Trek.  My boss in college was a huge trekkie (his company was called "Daystrom Technologies" and his main software product was called "M5"), and on the side he was a Promise Keeper and lived out in Lancaster with his wife and…

On the Republicans, no joke, I've known a lot of political conservatives that love Trek.  My boss in college was a huge trekkie (his company was called "Daystrom Technologies" and his main software product was called "M5"), and on the side he was a Promise Keeper and lived out in Lancaster with his wife and…

"Marina McGivers" was the historian in question, played by Madeline Ruhe.  The Font of All Knowledge informs me that she was diagnosed with MS in the 70s and was between crutches and a wheelchair at the time ST2 was filmed — which actually might have made Khan more poignant and complicated if she had survived to be in…

"Marina McGivers" was the historian in question, played by Madeline Ruhe.  The Font of All Knowledge informs me that she was diagnosed with MS in the 70s and was between crutches and a wheelchair at the time ST2 was filmed — which actually might have made Khan more poignant and complicated if she had survived to be in…

I'm willing to accept any use that doesn't imply a petard is like a flagpole. As long as ablative prepositions like "hoisted up," "hoisted on," are avoided in favor of instrumental ones, like"with" or "by," no foul.