It seems to me that you're the one now defining Sansa entirely as a rape victim, not the show (jury's still out on the show). Sansa's been through years of trauma and survival; if you now view her as "just a woman who's pissed off because she was victimized" (with said victimization limited to this rape), then that's…

Lord, I am not saying Sansa is getting some kind of karmic comeuppance, or that she has done anything truly wrong (much less anything comparable to the characters you cite). I would also like to see a victory for Sansa! I am sad for her and for everything she's going through! I'm just irritated by all the…

Certainly not! I explicitly said Sansa is not ultimately responsible for what's happened to her. She's been dealt a bad hand all the way around. I'm just saying all of these people complaining about Sansa's lack of agency are ignoring the times she has made choices, and ignoring the fact that Sansa has a plan and this…

Oh shoot! Sorry! I thought that did happen in-show. I've redacted. Thanks for the heads-up!

Sansa didn't want to escape. She chose to marry Ramsay. It's a part of her (and/or Littlefinger's) plan. She chose not to light a candle even after Miranda told her about the horrible things Ramsay does. This does not lessen the horror of Sansa's experience, but this is not a case of "helpless Sansa can't escape…

The Boltons are trying to rule the North, where most people most likely hate them (for betraying the Starks). Having the Bolton heir marry the Stark heir and start producing little Stark-Bolton babies would be immensely useful in soothing the North's ruffled feathers. I absolutely see the value in keeping Sansa for…

I'm actually curious as to what Littlefinger would have done if Cersei hadn't ordered him back to KL. Would he have hung out at Winterfell? Wouldn't that then have made him on the losing side if Stannis wins against the Bolton forces? I know it doesn't matter since he was called away, but since it seems crucial to his…

Being raped does not make one an object (other than in the eyes of the rapist, perhaps). Besides which, witnessing her violation may indeed motivate Theon, but everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Littlefinger gave Sansa a choice (perhaps illusory, but she at least thinks she had a choice), and she chose to…

I think they're doing a good job of showing how smugly short-sighted Cersei is being. It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots between "The Sparrows are going after sinners" and "Hey, Cersei's a big ol' sinner, as is well known by the High Sparrow's #1 zealot, Lancel." The "newbies" (still hate that term) seem…

I'm not sure I love that analogy, but we'll go with it. An old man having sex with his trophy wife is not rape, even if she secretly finds it distasteful. However, if said trophy wife is prepared to have sex with her husband and he decides to mix it up a little and let his friend watch, and she becomes reluctant, but…

I don't see the rape as motivating her or being included for the purpose of motivating her. She's already motivated. She was motivated to choose to marry (and, by extension, have sex with) Ramsay Bolton. She chose to experience something horrible — albeit more horrible that she arguably signed up for — to further her…

That's not exactly what I meant, but I can see how you might read it that way. I think the real problem is reducing it to an either/or fallacy — either she's victimized or she's empowered. It's more complex than that.

Look, I sympathize with Sansa too, but don't act like she hasn't made choices. The "incident with Lady" was spurred on by her choosing to lie for Joffrey. [Edited: Sorry!] She chose to lie to the lords of the Vale. This awful wedding night happened because she agreed to marry Ramsay to further her/Littlefinger's…

Well, I think that's the crossroads Arya is at. Does she take a place with the Faceless Men and give up her identity (and revenge), or does she remain Arya Stark at loose in the world? Her hiding Needle is emblematic of that struggle. She thinks she wants to become a Faceless Man, but she's not ready to shed every…

I think they were going to take them to Volantis, but Tyrion talked them into taking them to Slaver's Bay because Dany reopened the fighting pits, and Jorah's a good fighter. I think.

I guess I'd argue that sex without consent is rape, even in the context of a marriage chosen willingly. I agree that Sansa expected to have sex with Ramsay after marrying him, but I still think what happened was rape.

Very true. I think even the name "Littlefinger" is used mockingly.

Yes. And that's sad, and it sucks, and it's probably the most realistic storyline of all (A young noblewoman whose family lost a war being used as a pawn by the other nobles still lobbying for power? When has THAT ever happened?). Mind you, I'm not going to complain if Sansa ends up atop a throne composed of the…

I don't understand this line of reasoning. Sansa knew exactly what she was doing. She married Ramsay for a reason and knew full well this wedding night was coming. It's part of her (and/or Littlefinger's) plan. Did she know it was going to be extra-special awful? Probably not (until that conversation with Miranda…

They put me in mind of a Spice Girls video.