@No Commenr - I don't doubt that, I just didn't find his name in anything to do with the show(Even the Wiki & IMDB pages, which are both often updated by agents & reps), except when I saw a late trailer for Running Wilde back in the summer, showing exactly the moment frozen in the image in this review.

@Todd: Ahh, thanks for that. I'd been doing some looking but couldn't find a clear indicator as to whether they'd done that.

I almost don't want to do this, but…
"suupose"(Para 8)

You raise an interesting thought about how Kale might work this to his advantage. Until this point I'd felt he was going to reveal Spangler to those who he keeps his secrets from - or destroy him in some other way - and Kale would be able to write his own ticket. Hmmm…conundrum.

Damn, forgot to add that Grant would at best be a red herring at the moment. I postulated that Kale was actually the "good guy" a few weeks back, but as soon as he started becoming more and more open with Will, I've started feeling that this is a feint, to distract us from something malevolent that Kale will do later.

I think that Grant would have a reason to be bought by Spangler(Animosity, jealousy), but I think any mole is more likely to be Tanya in the long run. I know she can't be the mole for anything prior to now(Maybe Kale is playing both sides there), but after Spangler let her off the hook, she now has reason to be…

Not that I've seen, beyond the press release AMC put out comparing it to that and "All The President's Men"(Which itself was quickly referenced in the 'deep throat' meeting in the D.C. parking lot).

Didn't hate it.
Now I need three more episodes to decide if I like it enough to stay tuned.

Rubicon hid it well, but Kale Ingram
is Captain America. In a world without superheroes, and where being a patriot often means separating your role from morality, Kale Ingram IS Captain America. Regardless of how he portrays himself, I'm feeling that along with his being outside of Spangler's plans, and Ed's read of…

So is this like an insurance thing?
I don't understand - wouldn't it be cheaper and easier(On all of us), if they just set CNN on fire?

GAH, I know, I know - "Kale", not "Cale".

Anyone else feel that the Polygrapher was in league with Cale?
I mean, their little show and tell about "I think what you're doing is stupid", "Please let's get on with it", with the same Polygrapher then letting slip to Will about David's investigation - just the tiniest of breadcrumbs to set Will off - and that…

Well, if it is cynicism, I've always felt that cynicism is the name for protecting your feelings for disappointment. I kinda know what you mean about some of the more….egregious speeches/soliloquies delivered in M*A*S*H, and with other things from a bygone decade, and it always reminds me of the time I found out as a…

I'd agree with "hopefully helpful" and "i and 1", really both the show and the movie are about people and the way they face things, react to them, and in some ways are broken by them, but in terms of depicting the Korean war you'd find much more authentic portrayals elsewhere.

You know,
I had a thought about this ep just now - I didn't see it as Spangler being the nefarious one and Kale being the one protecting Will, but the other way round, which meant when it was revealed that Kale was monitoring Spangler's meeting with Clay Davis, I felt a sense of dread as to what he was up to.

I didn't know about the "last-minute" thing, but I always looked at it as Sorkin casting one of his more prized contributors to the show, almost as something of a meta-commentary on the role people like Lawrence O'Donnell played - both to the show, and perhaps on a broader note. I don't know much of what he did…

Bravo
Steve, I think you've written an excellent review of the final season 2 episodes, and reading the sections about "18th & Potomac" actually made me feel a little heartbroken, reminiscent of how I was the first time I saw Dule Hill delicately cradling that phone, like it was the last trace of Delores Landingham he…

That Hotel California one is in fact the very first clip in the "Clive" montage linked above. I love it, but man, you feel worse about the world when you're done.

Had another thought to add after flipping back through the last fe pages of comments: Monkey Dust was often far beyond the pale for my contemporaries to enjoy, and similarly Ricky Gervais merciless evisceration of bosses in "The Office", then famous people in "Extras", but I always enjoyed, because of the satire at…

Sorry, had to add some more clips of Monkey Dust. Here's a near-10-minute long compilation of "Clive"(Each individual one is about a minute or two), each making fantastic use of sound, including the stylistic marker of Goldfrapp's "Lovely Head"(Apropos for Clive, as you'll see).