Yeah, I didn't say either one was great. I'm saying they'd be more enjoyable if they were just some movie I'd seen once. I actually think the screenplay in both cases are very similarly stupid, and teenage boys think they're totally cool.

partdavid - Talent may always evident, but the experience of art is unique to each individual reader/viewer and their cultural baggage, the set of outside imagery they associate the piece with. Using my previous example, Star Wars will never be "ruined," but I also can't fully isolate it from the context of the…

Persia - right, well, I didn't ever have a question, so I'm not sure how I managed to answer it. But thanks for pointing out something I actually said in my own post?

lexicondevil — that all depends. FOR EXAMPLE, I can pretend that Terminator 3 never happened. I've only seen it once, it wasn't very memorable, and it quickly faded from my mind. 2010 is similar in that way, and I'm sure this movie will be too. But how about the Star Wars prequels? Everyone saw them, spent 6 years…

Donnie Darko, like Boondock Saints, is an okay movie if you ignore the undeserved cult following.

"Unable to leave until their car is fixed, Sam and Corey are stranded with the locals until their car's fixed."

It has nothing to do with the movies growing up. I appreciate the originals now as an adult, and I can't say the same for everything I liked when I was a kid (Batman & Robin). The whole "people expected the movies to grow up" thing is a cop out.

The Pink Panther movies are like fine chocolate— when you actually try it, it's a little too bitter to fully enjoy, but over time, you develop an appreciation for the flavor. And you'll still usually go with the easy satisfation of M&Ms or Tootsie Rolls, but every once in a while, you'll crave sophistication.

I think my favorite sketch is the fried bumblebees one, but it's not really funny in text. It's all about how they did it.

Molesting little boys is rogue behavior wrongly associated with the church. I mean, I haven't heard that there's a significantly higher percentage of Catholic pedophiles than any other denomination.

I don't even think it's a ratio of good to bad episodes, but moments within the episodes. The Simpsons is still a good show, it's totally watchable, and even the worst episodes usually have at least a couple of gags that'll make you laugh. But it was a gradual descent, and it's hard to pinpoint I think especially…

God, I fucking HATE the "everything but country or rap" statement. You can't claim to be cultured if you dismiss other cultures.

Fourth season Futurama is amazing, and not just Jurassic Bark. The Sting, The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings, Where No Fan Has Gone Before, The Farnsworth Parabox, and Spanish Fry are all top notch.

Eyes Wide Shut is great, shut up shut up shut up.

A cult harms its own followers. Religion threatens others.

Sometimes I forget how badass Johnny Depp is.

George Michael and Maeby are still married at the end of the series, right? Because I always assumed that might be important if there ever was a movie.

I believe you're the line is, "I'm smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb."

Leave it to the internet to turn any conversation to the topic of porn.

Gentle Herpes - Actually, I'm pretty sure Eddie Murphy wants an Oscar pretty fucking bad. He stormed out when he didn't win for Dreamgirls, remember?