She definitely meets all of MY criteria…

She definitely meets all of MY criteria…

Marcus,

Marcus,

"counterculturAL", not "counterculture".  And incidentally, despite the decidely mainstream origins of the Monkees, a glance through the second season shows that the stars and producers were definitely in touch with the politics and the counterculture of 1967-8.

"counterculturAL", not "counterculture".  And incidentally, despite the decidely mainstream origins of the Monkees, a glance through the second season shows that the stars and producers were definitely in touch with the politics and the counterculture of 1967-8.

Great line from the first (unofficial) SNL history described Laugh-In's politics as "toothless onscreen and conservative behind it".  The linked article is very compelling on that score.  Laugh-In was a vaudeville show in hippie drag, and far, far less innovative or counterculture than The Monkees, let alone The…

Great line from the first (unofficial) SNL history described Laugh-In's politics as "toothless onscreen and conservative behind it".  The linked article is very compelling on that score.  Laugh-In was a vaudeville show in hippie drag, and far, far less innovative or counterculture than The Monkees, let alone The…

"The Simpsons at that time may be the best show there ever was. I can’t overstate its effect on me."

"The Simpsons at that time may be the best show there ever was. I can’t overstate its effect on me."

I agree completely, although I suspect that only one of us likes the Monkees and it isn't you.

I agree completely, although I suspect that only one of us likes the Monkees and it isn't you.

So did you move on to the "real" Beatles catalog?  And if so, did you like the songs more or less in their final versions?

So did you move on to the "real" Beatles catalog?  And if so, did you like the songs more or less in their final versions?

You didn't HAVE TO!

You didn't HAVE TO!

I don't remember how good or bad the performance was, but I came away from it thinking nothing but "wow, the SNL audience is a bunch of dumbass kids".

I don't remember how good or bad the performance was, but I came away from it thinking nothing but "wow, the SNL audience is a bunch of dumbass kids".

And Ezra Pound, and T. S. Eliot.  And Ma Rainey and Beethoven. 

And Ezra Pound, and T. S. Eliot.  And Ma Rainey and Beethoven.