I don't recommend trying to lick the asshole of the woman with the nice ass in the office or out on the street. Just speaking from experience, here.

A slight addendum to what I said above - Dik is right, as always - you shouldn't say "I need my space" or whatever because that's more than likely to make things weird, just take the space if you do feel you need it.

You should fuck. Lots. You both enjoy it. (Or, well, I guess you haven't necessarily done the p-in-v yet, but whatever, it's all fun.)

Is "I Would For You" the Jane's Addiction song? Because I'd be interested in hearing a NIN take on that.

I have never heard of them. And, uh, nothing in the article makes me want to, very much.

@stepped_pyramids:disqus Not that I recall, no. But I do get into a lot of these types of arguments - about every year or so I go on a tear about how I have a problem with non-narrative stories or surrealism in general. And then someone reminds me that not everyone has to like the same stuff and we all agree to be…

I'm pushing 40, so it's not the youth thing, and I've read an awful lot of comics, so it's not really the ignorance either, although I'm certainly less well-versed in silver/golden age stuff than a lot of the people here.

@drdarke:disqus Pretty sure I didn't.

I've never read FF #51 before but I just looked up a few pages, and, yeah, it's a perfect example of the kinds of things that annoy me. There are single panels with more than 10 exclamation marks. There's painfully direct exposition. There's endless telling rather than showing. There's multiple panels which consist of…

@unicyclistperiscopes:disqus He says "10x that amount"! Look, it's right there in legally-binding text!

@avclub-74f7a71ee2b66500bff752ae84ce358d:disqus this is driving me crazy, because it doesn't even work for Ring of Fire, at least not past the first line of dooos.

Oh man that is the coolest thing ever.

Yeah, you're definitely right. This is more of a "what tropes bug Enkidum" kind of point than a "these comics are objectively worse" one, I guess. So we'll just have to agree to agree.

Actually yeah, my comment was unnecessarily bitchy. There's nothing wrong with "extremely silly" or caring about the formal details of shots. It just he never really turned my crank that much. So… I dunno, carry on enjoying him.

I'm pretty broke, so if you gave me 5000 bucks to stay awake for two and a half days I'd flat out do it starting now. In fact I'm pretty sure that your comment constitutes a legal contract to that effect, so I'll send you my address for the cheque.

No, no, this is the internet! You're not supposed to admit you made a mistake, this is where you have to double down and call his mother a whore!

OK, but the dialogue in almost all the runs you mention is flat out awful. At least if you're at all interesting in any kind of naturalism. Lee can't write a single line without an exclamation mark, and Claremont's an interesting plotter but… come on. They're competent at best. I suppose O'Neil is pretty concerned…

Agreed. But… I dunno, look at Gillen or Ellis or David or Bendis (or a host of other recent Marvel writers). There's comparatively little misanthropy, indeed there's something of a general hopefulness, but there's also very little "OH NO FAITHFUL READERS HOW WILL HE ESCAPE THE FEARSOME POWER OF BLAH BLAH BLAH". I'd…

I need to read this, I think.

I'd say more that the appropriate comparison would be films made before the 50's. Which, sure, there are many fantastic ones (and I don't pretend to know half of them), but there's a certain kind of cheesiness to so many of them (fantastic or not) that just grates.