Ever seen Wayne's World?

Arrec Baldwin!

For a certain mindset, Kundun is vastly underrated. But I admit up front that it's not for everyone.

How do you like them apples?

Now you got us all in suspenders! What was the scene?

Lost Highway, Fifth Element, Gattaca, and Seven Years in Tibet got me behind you but Chasing Amy lost me. No way that belongs on a best list of anything.

I was going to say the same thing. You can criticize someone's opinion and even conclude the person is uninformed/ignorant, crazy/emotional, or illogical for holding a particular opinion. But that observation in no way implicates the person for being "bad". There is no value judgment one can make on the whole person…

When I see minority representations in old movies (like Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's) it says more about the white minds that made the film than the ethnicity being lampooned.

Is Some Like It Hot still funny?

+10 for that one.

That's another good point. Pat's humor is driven by ambiguousness, first in Pat's presentation, then in the minds of people around Pat.

"3.) "No one else is allowed to find this skit funny.""

Pat is the subject here but I submit that Michael Caine's character in Dressed to Kill is 1000x more harmful as "hurtful propaganda" that Pat ever was or could be. People write laws (looking at you North Carolina and Texas) based on depictions like Dressed to Kill. No one really fears Pat.

Wisdom is another question altogether. I am not advocating any action (like the erasure of Pat from SNL rebroadcasts) but I get it if not everyone finds that skit funny. I laugh at Blazing Saddles but I feel conflicted about it. Wisdom is harder to achieve than you think.

Oh I am not criticizing the original quote in any way. It's perfectly human to look at even distant offenses and be personally offended in the present, even when those offensive people are long dead.

There is a category difference being missed here.

I can accept that interpretations may vary but that proves my point in a way. With Pat you can see the personal characteristics (e.g. the grating laugh) without assigning them to all trans people everywhere, especially since the skit introduced other ambiguous people for Pat to interact with that had their own…

I was going to say the same thing. There is never a negative portrayal of the character. It was always the other people struggling to figure out their own question that acted silly. Pat's obliviousness could be construed as empowering. I am not being facetious at all saying that.

I was surprised myself to see that much rework done on the original
tracks. But I guess I am so much of a fan of the film that I hardly
notice the discordance anymore. I would love to get my hands on "clean"
versions to play in the background some time. The music is great without the film as well.

Krogs???? LOL