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In my memory, could be wrong, didn't Robb die before this declaration could actually be formally issued?

I wonder if it could be more literal than that, and meaningful to the entire story? Like Summer's dead. Winter has arrived.

Not to mention he has to travel a long ass way to get there, during which time she may get married, or start moving in on Westeros, or both. Mind you, people are already pointing out the ease with which our characters seem to traverse hundreds of miles at a time.

That's probably a reasonable understanding of it. Which kind of makes Hodor an almost totally unwilling participant.

I already commented on this in the Newbies thread but a guy I follow on Twitter was comparing Euron to Trump and I found this hilarious. Before he bragged about his cock, he even called Theon "Little Theon".

Probably not on purpose by the show (especially given how long ago it would have been filmed) but yes, some people are noticing Euron is hilariously Trump-like, right down to bragging about his cock and calling Theon "Little Theon". (I left a comment above about this.)

A guy I follow on Twitter was saying Euron is Westeros' (or at least the Iron Islands') Trump. Brags about how big his dick is, calls Theon "Little Theon", campaigns to "Make the Iron Islands Great Again", makes fantastical promises that seem tough to keep.

This reveal about Hodor brings up some questions about his level of consent in this whole thing. He seems to have been completely taken advantage of.

Well… Did they expect her to immediately kill herself after the beating in the car? I'm not sure he would have taken care to tell her that because her being alive would be the assumption until they hear otherwise. I'd guess that during the brief time Sarah was Beth without them knowing, they were either plotting to

I don't remember exactly when, but it was in Season 1, and a commenter above points out that Season 1 took place over 10 days of real time. So with that, the reviewer's whole question of why SarahBeth wasn't bothered by Evie seems negligible to me.

I didn't realize it was that little time. In that case, it's really not any kind of a plot hole. Sarah wasn't fooling anybody for long.

This is a good point. I guess she was thinking she would have access to the samples and could at that point destroy them and any research that came from them. Getting rid of the source was more important.

But why does she have particular reason to care whether they live or die? She just cares about her own preferred science prevailing over the long run. Whether some clones get to live a relatively long life is immaterial—Susan needed that original to further the project.

To the reviewer's points about plot holes:

I could be wrong, but my reasoning here is Sarah, as Beth, didn't know what Beth knew and was just learning about the existence of clones and the larger conspiracy. She didn't know anything about Evie's side of things and there would have been no evidence of her learning any new information, so maybe as far as Evie

You're not a dick but my opinion on a *TV show* is "stupid". Whatever man.

I don't know what point I proved, or how, but people have different opinions on good or bad storytelling…why be a dick about it? You like it, I don't…we'll both be fine.

I was a huge, huge GoT fan until I got tired of all the death and general shitty bleakness all the time, let a bunch of recorded episodes pile up, and gave up on ever watching. I'm sometimes guilty of contrarianism for the sake of it, but not this time. Others share my feelings.

I had the same exact reaction as the reviewer. The ultimate effect of an overly ruthless "any character can die at any time, the rug can always be pulled out" ethic is you kinda just stop giving a shit. Maybe it's an instinctual, "why get attached? Why feel hope?" thing. I don't know. I didn't care much if Carl lived

I was at a panel where Lena Headey said she uses a body double.