Well… yes you're probably right. But I can't shoehorn Adam or The Master into a patriarchal archetype and at the same time they're the lamest villans.

Dunno. Hadn't noticed until you mentioned it now. Would be a real shame to lose Sophist's comments.

I didn't mean to *like* that PatronSaint, I meant to comment with:

Yes, you've said it before. Be prepared to be derided again. Gina Torres is beautiful, you have very strange (or, I suspect more likely, very narrow) taste in what you consider to be physically attractive in women, you are a very bad person and probably smell funny. Will that do?

They don't exist (apart from maybe the Fray-crossover) and they are a weird fever dream you once had.

Goddamn it!

I should credit this opinion to someone posting here on a Buffy review from several seasons ago, but I can't remember who or when. Anyway, whoever it was pointed out that the really memorable villans in BtVS all represented patriarchal archetypes:

I don't mind Caleb so much, and I love the HERE BE SPOILERS literally empower thousands of teenage girls ending, but between the two I'd agree that they take the show's feminism from overt (which is great) to didactic (not so much).

Held *down* the fort? Reminds me of this…

I'm originally from Newcastle! Pet.

Shut up, Bignose.

I "liked" this mainly for the use of "embiggens"

Hey! I quite enjoy the Cosby Show!

Quiet day at work again?

Oooh! Right, I warned you!

Well played sir. Very well played.

Thanks Aurora. I'm now especially glad that I didn't bother watching much Voyager.

El Robotico Diablo!

Hang on. Wait. What? I haven't watched much Voyager either. Are you saying that there really is an episode where travelling at Warp 10 turns them into giant lizards?

Thanks Archmage, especially if you're using Perception for initiative rolls rather than Wits + Alertness.