@J.P. McPickleshitter: Lucien?

It hit [the writers] like Chris Brown!

It hit [the writers] like Chris Brown!

If less Jason Ritter means less Sarah Braverman and zero Drew Holt, then I would be  very very happy. All three a black holes to the show.

If less Jason Ritter means less Sarah Braverman and zero Drew Holt, then I would be  very very happy. All three a black holes to the show.

Is Louie essentially a cynical Parenthood, then?

Is Louie essentially a cynical Parenthood, then?

I understand and agree with your opinions on New Girl, and it is really hard to compare hang-out sitcoms with something like Suburgatory.

I understand and agree with your opinions on New Girl, and it is really hard to compare hang-out sitcoms with something like Suburgatory.

Allie Grant (of Weeds glory) might be the best comedic actor on the show insofar.

Allie Grant (of Weeds glory) might be the best comedic actor on the show insofar.

Nope, they played a re-run of 30 Rock instead, IIRC.

Nope, they played a re-run of 30 Rock instead, IIRC.

Start with the Thanksgiving episode, and don't take Chatswin too seriously.

Start with the Thanksgiving episode, and don't take Chatswin too seriously.

The more Pamela Adlon (on Parenthood, that is), the better!

The more Pamela Adlon (on Parenthood, that is), the better!

I've always asserted that Suburgatory is going through the Pawnee-stages of development. The first season (i.e. Season 2 of P&R) to set up the ridiculous world in which the show operates, and the second season and on to set up how the characters operate within that world.

I've always asserted that Suburgatory is going through the Pawnee-stages of development. The first season (i.e. Season 2 of P&R) to set up the ridiculous world in which the show operates, and the second season and on to set up how the characters operate within that world.

Parenthood's obviously not a comedy, though. Although both have humor where you're more inclined to "laugh with", and have dramatic elements, one obviously isn't a live-action cartoon.