Also, musicians are in front of crowds all the fucking time.  Writers aren't.  That experience is a lot more exciting for a writer.

I agree.  I was going to mention DIY shows but dropped it to make a simpler point.  At a house show with poor bands and poor fans, people do whatever they can to at least raise enough money to cover transportation.  It's negligible, and artists would participate regardless, but the gesture means something, and it's…

I agree.  I was going to mention DIY shows but dropped it to make a simpler point.  At a house show with poor bands and poor fans, people do whatever they can to at least raise enough money to cover transportation.  It's negligible, and artists would participate regardless, but the gesture means something, and it's…

For the record, I don't even know any more what the dumb kickstarter was for.  If the tour itself isn't actually crowdsourced, sorry about being a dumb jerk.

For the record, I don't even know any more what the dumb kickstarter was for.  If the tour itself isn't actually crowdsourced, sorry about being a dumb jerk.

Hey man, I'm sorry your dad fucking sucks.

Hey man, I'm sorry your dad fucking sucks.

I'm interested if you or any other insiders can elaborate more on the economics of a mid-sized band touring.  Why is Amanda Palmer using kickstarter to pay for her tour in the first place?  If the idea is to keep out middlemen (livenation, record label, whatever else), then what is she gaining by doing so?  Is the…

I'm interested if you or any other insiders can elaborate more on the economics of a mid-sized band touring.  Why is Amanda Palmer using kickstarter to pay for her tour in the first place?  If the idea is to keep out middlemen (livenation, record label, whatever else), then what is she gaining by doing so?  Is the…

Yes it does.

Yes it does.

From what I understand, she asked for professional/professionalish musicians and wanted them to come rehearse beforehand.  That definitely puts it closer to the people who should get paid category more than the people jamming category.

From what I understand, she asked for professional/professionalish musicians and wanted them to come rehearse beforehand.  That definitely puts it closer to the people who should get paid category more than the people jamming category.

"One of my big issues with this whole thing, though, is that I don’t think she is being hypocritical. I think she invited people to participate in her shows—like she’s always done—and people are suddenly judging that invitation in a completely new way. Even though it hasn’t changed, in people’s minds, she has, because…

"One of my big issues with this whole thing, though, is that I don’t think she is being hypocritical. I think she invited people to participate in her shows—like she’s always done—and people are suddenly judging that invitation in a completely new way. Even though it hasn’t changed, in people’s minds, she has, because…

I understand that you CAN read it that way, but my annoyance was with the statement that Louis "leaves room" for your reading.  To me almost anything leaves room for ironic interpretation.  That's just how irony works.  You can say almost anything doesn't mean what it's seems to mean.

I understand that you CAN read it that way, but my annoyance was with the statement that Louis "leaves room" for your reading.  To me almost anything leaves room for ironic interpretation.  That's just how irony works.  You can say almost anything doesn't mean what it's seems to mean.

What does that even mean that he "leaves room to read it as satire"?  How does the presentation of the show let you laugh at its contrivances?  How is any of that about Louis CK, and not about you the viewer?

What does that even mean that he "leaves room to read it as satire"?  How does the presentation of the show let you laugh at its contrivances?  How is any of that about Louis CK, and not about you the viewer?

How condescending exactly can turtles be?