Yes, we definitely need to see Leonard's father. And YES to John Lithgow for the role.

@avclub-49504621ff584020282a8bb0f2d5eb92:disqus  Just out of curiosity - is this the first time you've disagreed with the reviewer?

I assume Oliver is just pulling people's legs by rating this crappy episode an A. Either that, or he's just completely incapable of judging the merit of this show, and shouldn't be allowed to review it. I'm leaning towards the latter explanation, but I'll be generous enough to accept that the former might be possible…

@avclub-43f6ba1dfda6b8106dc7cf1155f37fdb:disqus  Agreed with all of that except this part: 'is ultimately won over by him'. Nope, I'm never won over by Logan. The one and only time I felt his presence on the show was justified is when he calls Rory out on her hypocrisy regarding idle rich people, by pointing out that…

@avclub-7f149f0a044e9ffbbe102725107074d2:disqus You're right that in real-life people don't usually have epiphanies and change their mind a few days/minutes before the wedding. But that's not so much because real people think things through more than fictional ones. It's just that real people rarely question their own…

"I guess I've got a new daddy!" 

Aww, what a missed opportunity: Taylor's brother and Luke bonding over their annoyance with Taylor.

Yeah, that was in Application Anxiety. In fact, that's what makes Rory Anxious about her Application (among other things).

Great analysis.

I think by this point we must make our peace with the fact that SIIIIIMMMMSSS has highly selective vision when it comes to GG. The only thing he cares about is Rory's relationships, so if an episode features something (however minor) on that front, he'll focus on it exclusively, and if it doesn't, he'll just grumble…

Fair enough. But you can turn it around and say that the reason we never see any Stars Hollow teenagers is that they simply aren't a part of Rory's (and Lorelai's) lives.

@avclub-9e0b6a08580086d99065b19a22ba8da1:disqus  That's not what the dance episode shows at all. Lorelai freaked out that time because 1) Rory didn't come home all night (which is any parent's nightmare), 2) Emily was there to witness the whole fiasco, 3) Dean and Rory had been dating for only a few months, and 4)…

That was last week - at the end of 'Swan Song'.

@avclub-9e0b6a08580086d99065b19a22ba8da1:disqus I have rewatched the series, and I didn't notice any such thing.

Yup - it's nice to see that Rory isn't thought of as a darling princess by at least some people in Stars Hollow. And significantly it's the young people who think that. As I have mentioned previously, the adults in SH may love Rory, but her peers don't really care about her - she has no same-age friends except Lane.

What did she have against Dean? As Lorelai herself says dozens of times, he was the perfect boyfriend. She wouldn't have objected if Rory had lost her virginity to him while they were dating.

'Intentionally freaked'? He didn't say anything more than what a normal mature person should have already thought of ages before the wedding. It's a testament to Lorelai's immaturity (and Max's too, for that matter) that she (and he) had never thought about it before.

I'd like to give ASP - and Lorelai - the benefit of the doubt, and assume that that line refers to Rory's mature attitude towards sex. But the phrasing doesn't really support this reading. If that's what it meant, it would be "I have a good kid" not "the good kid".

That's obviously not what Sims is talking about. No one would tell Lorelai that she treated Max horribly just because she held out for a thousand daisies. The 'rebuff' in question is Lorelai leaving him.

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