What really bugs me is if they don’t have Sara Mitich for Nilsson to deliver those lines, why use an actress who looks just like her?

I thought it was 32 worlds-   “worlds” in the the federation I believe also didnt refer just to literal inhabited plantes but member races, so one “world” could comnsist of a home plant and multiple colonies.  But the federation is actually slighlty larger then it was in disco and TOS, in TOS they said 30 member…

The cloaking added so little to this episode I feel like “we have a cloaking device now, right?” had to be a Chekov’s Gun for one of the follow-up episodes (which I haven’t seen yet, so don’t spoil anything!)

Yes, the Matt Smith era eventually collapsed under its own weight (I will defend Series 5 as terrific and I think Series 6 is pretty strong episodically, but it’s the truth). Series 9 and 10 are simply excellent.

Is there a general consensus? I feel like opinions are so varied at this point that there’s not a whole lot everyone agrees on.

Exactly, it’s not like the Federation hasn’t allied with morally ambiguous civilizations before. They made peace with the Klingons and established an alliance even though the Klingons were still conquering and enslaving people. They even had a TNG episode where a planet conquered by the Klingons was rebelling and the…

But I agree did she really think that was going to work with the noble Federation? Well who knows, it is 930 years in the future and after the Burn, so they might have to negotiate with terrorists after all.

Heck, if anything, Osyraa was far more reasonable than Mirror Georgiou. Osyraa at least is trying to help her people and restore civilization to the galaxy. Mirror Georgiou was a sadistic renegade only concerned with her own self interest and hedonism.

I dont think its terrible writing that wants us to believe that.. just the writer of this article. Stamets was given like 4 seconds to process what was going on then was knocked out. Not to mention he doesnt understand that like only 10 of his crew is aboard the ship. For all he knows Michael rescuing him proves that…

The toasting of Mirror Georgiou was a WILD choice. Her character might have worked if she was a regular terran transported to the prime universe, even if she was an equivalent starship captain, but to have the literal evil emperor get a tearful send off because she’d had about enough character development to not kill…

I wonder if the writers even watch their own show or review their own scripts. The story arc before this one was literally about how awesome Mirror Georgiou was. They had no problem allying with a genocidal megalomaniac, using her skills and knowledge, and having her help the Federation using extremely underhanded…

“I think that’s interesting, but it’s unfortunate that it’s coming from Osyraa, since that makes it feel a bit too good-people-on-both-sides-y.”

I don’t really get that vibe, especially since “turn yourself in and face justice for all those murders you did or no deal” is Vance’s explicit position, thus limiting the…

I wonder what is up with the Ferengi at this time

The actor playing the scientist has ALS, which might have contributed to his low-key delivery.

Omg- I’m actuallyat a current review for the first time in Disco’s and my history- yes! *cue fist drawn into ribcage*

This was another dumb episode. So what was Osyra’s plan?

They’ve done a really, really bad job on Osyraa to date in the show. The longer the conversation with Vance went on I kept thinking I must have missed out on the bit where she’s not just a two-bit space pirate but is basically the front-person for a whole other civilization, one to rival that of the Federation.

I can’t think of The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians without Cyborg. I guess they’ll have to bring in Samurai to replace him. Possibly El Dorado.

Okay, I’m going to do my best to sell this show to the AV Club readership. One spoiler below:

That was actually one of the things that bothered me the least. I think we all know the Treaty of Algeron was one of the stupidest moves the Federation ever made (Team Pressman forever), and if there’s no Romulan Empire anymore, the treaty should be null and void. Also, given the status of the Federation by 3200,…