In an interview at Harper’s Bazaar, showrunner Bruce Miller said “what ends up being probably 165 children” were saved. That’s a lot, praise be to the Marthas and Handmaids who sacrificed to save them. This finale saved the season for me.

While I see what you’re getting at, this doesn’t mean that crazy shit doesn’t happen in real life as well, things that are exceedingly implausible, bordering on ridiculous.

I’m pretty sure the answer is a simple “that would be inconvenient”. :p

I sure hope not. That’s also where I draw the line. What I don’t understand is why people just stay put in Canada. Yes, it’s convenient to be right there in case the person you love escapes. I get Luke wanting to stick around for June, for example. But if Canada starts being too nice to Gilead, why not leave? There’s…

I really thought for a minute there Janine was going to be the one to go be the distraction (at the cost of her life).

It seems implausible to me that Bradly Whitford would live through this (how could they have pulled it off without high-level help/his blind eye) but also - I really want him to be back next season.…

Too true. And the only American govt-in-exile rep we’ve seen is that spy AFAIK, and we know very little about his overall motivations- is there an larger operation to destabilize Gilead’s leadership, or was his recruiting Serena gambit more of a one-off?

Background: The book that Joseph Lawrence is reading aloud is “Treasure Island.” He’s on Chapter 32 - depending on the edition, he’s more than 100 pages in already.

It’s remarkable how forgiving you can be of a mediocre season when the finale is pretty good. I would have bumped this rating to a B+. I feel like the B Allison gives here is more of a season grade rather than an episode grade. This was a good one, even if the season was more meh.

“whatever happened between June and Nick... is ridiculously irrelevant by comparison”

Fuck it. I loved GOT finale and I’m loving the handmaids tale. This generation of whippersnappers. Always wanting to be right about the thing they once loved going to shit. In my day we had to walk up a hill both ways in kneed deep snow ... barefoot... to find something to hate or complain about. But by Joe, damned if…

The crime is not writing a book or giving speeches per se, the crime is starting an armed revolution leading to a coup, and high treason. Hitler wrote a book and gave speeches too, which lead to similar results. And the world at large knows that Serena was leading the movement, not Fred, who was just her PR man.

I think you’re giving the writers too much credit. There will probably be some changes but I don’t expect anything that significant. I just realized, though, that one of the punishments might be those mouth rings so that’s nice. :/

You might be right but sending Emily and the children back is probably what would make me quit the show for good. I’m getting angry just thinking about it. But since I AM thinking about it, would they really send Emily back knowing she would be tortured and possibly killed?

Nick did rape June. June did not consent to that first sex act. (I’m surprised by the amount of commentary I am seeing missing that point.)

The tape is misleading. (Isn’t Luke in possession of it, anyway?) June speaks to what the relationship became, not how it began. If you’ve seen OITNB, it’s similar to Pennsatucky’s…

also I’m not sure I want to know what exactly Gilead does to handicapped people.

My theory is that 1) yes, any Marthas still found alive in the forest, or remotely suspected of involvement go on the wall, 2) you can’t kill the handmaids, like you said, so 3) all Marthas and handmaids in all of Gilead go back into the system, and get reshuffled and reassigned to different parts of the country. This…

“I understand these children are products of a horrible society that rapes women and gives their children away—but was sending them away to be raised by strangers in a foreign country the right thing to do?”

I’ve recently re watched both. I personally think Frasier has stood the test of time much better. Revisiting Cheers has made it clear to me that it was really just an average sitcom. 

This was the only Cheers 2 I needed.

Watched the entire run of Cheers a while back. Although it was often hilarious, and the actors were perfectly cast, I was surprised at how dated it was.