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What feminism also stands for is the idea that a grown woman has just as much a right to dress herself as she sees fit as a grown man. No one is forcing men to show a state-sanctioned amount of skin at the beach, and if men are covering themselves at the beach, no one is prying into their reasons.

“quick stop those brown men dictating women’s clothing, us white dudes should be doing that!”

I’m an atheist. I think all religions are full of bad ideas. I think consumer culture is full of bad ideas. I think celebrity worship is full of bad ideas. I don’t think any of it should be allowed to pressure or force a woman to conform to their standards.

Why do you think Islam preaches that men are fine in a t-shirt and shorts? It doesn’t.

A woman’s body hair is just as natural as a man’s and many women are pressured to be hairless from the eyelashes down. A woman’s skin is as natural as a man’s, but a woman can lose her job or promotion if she doesn’t paint her face. Women can be suspended from their jobs for being too fat (see the Egyptian news

You don’t confront bad ideas about women and our bodies by dictating what we can’t wear. That’s imposing on the individual’s right to express themselves and practice their faith. Shockingly, some women do choose to dress ‘modestly’ and cover up. No matter what you think of it, they have the right to make choices that

We cannot forget how many place in the world prosecute women for not presenting themselves in the world as “not as alright” as a man.

You are missing a key issue in this situation, and it’s leading you to some very authoritarian positions. Would you be willing to discuss the situation to highlight the issue?

Really? Ever been to a Catholic wedding? One where the bride had to compromise and sew sleeves or straps on her strapless dress in order to have a church wedding because shoulders are like, so sinful?

Because of course nuns are the majority of women?? Really?

Society says fat women shouldn’t show skin, so should they be prohibited from going to the beach in a cover-up b/c society is shaming them for having fat female bodies? This sort of logic lies at the heart of the argument. Women are shamed for their bodies by religions of all types, women are shamed by secular

Why does it matter why one does something? And how can we know someone’s motivations? Many overweight women cover up b/c of society’s moral outrage over them being fat and in a swimsuit in public. Shall we also punish them? It’s like we now have to develop an app that reads our thoughts to see if we’re doing something

This is a great point; how the hell does this dude presume to know what feels the most free for women? I’d bet if you did a survey, French women would not opt for a bikini as the most freeing thing to wear in public.

No it’s in the name of (selective) secularism;

Annette Kellerman was the first to invent a woman’s one piece. She was considered indecent for showing skin. She’s a hero.

Criminalizing their religion is what is what provokes radical Islam. What France is doing right now? Not helping.

There’s nothing quite like dictating what women are allowed to wear in public in the name of feminism.

Look at those harlots, showing a disgraceful lack of skin! They should be ashamed for......

“Muslim women are free to do whatever they want!”*

You don’t make people free by taking away their choices and controlling what they wear.