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"Your coverage is bias. We do good things like donate to charity and take care of the community. If you are not going to cover us fairly, we want you to cease to exist."

It's clear you're not understanding what I'm saying, either by choice or a lack of capacity to understand.

I am a first generation gamer. Started with pong and atari and still play as much as my teenage son.

Nope! Not interested in more goalpost moving and rules lawyering from your people, or more shitty private messages from your people. After all, you know they call us all shills over there, but since every conversation devolves into screaming about shills, I can see how it would be hard to run an adequate search

Talk what out? GG wants something, but they are not really sure what. They harass women, and they got super mad at articles that had the audacity to say that the demographics of gaming has changed and that women and minorities are now gamers.

You can sound reasonable and level headed and still spout crap and half truths. When the first three of their 'literally who's' are female, and not even female game journalists, and when they remain silent about actual companies doing actual skeevy shit, like giving out review codes for games to youtube players for

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In this case kotaku is just doing what they do by reporting on one of the few noteworthy events from Blizzcon.

No, it doesn't. And no, they don't.

Here's how adults I interact with feel. I don't mean to sound condescending , I mean it to say that I work with a bunch of real life people with real life jobs, most of whom are somewhat aware of the issue.

"If Eron had not done what he did, several women would not be in the situation they are now (being threatened)."

Gamergate isn't a "majority of knowledgeable gamers". It's a hate group, where many of the more well-known supporters don't give a shit about games, or gaming culture - only about making this about politics.

It's going to continue, regardless. I'd rather have good people condemn such a bad thing, then try and pretend it's not happening.

It's about cheating on your SO while being a female indie game developer somehow keeping down other female indie game developers while having a negative impact on ethics in games journalism and somehow that impact is worse than developers directly requiring lets players to speak positively about your game in return

You know, "gamers." People that hate women and think any attempt to diversify gaming is an all out attack on their main hobby and the only thing in life from which they inexplicably draw their self-worth. Those "gamers." Who want to think they represent all of us who play games.

It was born in unpleasantness, as has been said over and over. Anyone who's not hateful has had some serious mental gymnastics to do when trying to explain why they stand alongside such a blatantly nasty group.

If that's your experience, go visit KiA and politely express a dissenting opinion. I do that now and then, just show up and say my piece without any name-calling or smearing... usually what I do is point out, when they start in talking about how slutty Zoe Quinn is or how Jewy Anita Sarkeesian looks, that saying

That's because there are good people who misguidedly believe the core of GamerGate isn't about harassment and hatred of women. Their good behavior doesn't change the impact of their 'movement' and doesn't change the fact that the targets are almost entirely female.

You dont solve a problem by pretending it does not exist

No one hates gamergate specifically because they hate men. It's because of the giant bucket of "We are terrible" paint that many of its members dumped over its name and entire membership.

aaaaaand there it is. :D We got a winner, everyone!