I would definitely need to buy the 85kWh version, if not the performance version. I just couldn't live with myself otherwise. By the time you add anything to it you're over $85k.

That's strange - in Arizona we have a Tesla store, and I can buy and have delivered a Tesla from the website (I almost bought one, but somehow recovered from the temporary insanity of spending 100k on a car). Maybe I'm misunderstanding the direct-to-consumer issue.

The line must be drawn HERE!

Wow, and to think all the years I wasted eating non-human based matzo ball soup at Jerry's.

Former Californian here: Didn't California become a failed state and become like Mad Max several years ago? People still can go there?

I'm sure the workers voted in their self interest and saw through whatever nonsense was involved. I haven't followed the issue, but if I was a legislative official in Tennessee I would lobby against it too - a UAW presence would make it very hard to lure new companies who would invest in new plants and jobs. And let's…

You're confused because I completely made that up.

I think she's what you would call a "gay lesbian". One who likes to strap one on and give it to dudes in the ass.

It highly depends on the dealer. At Chrysler, the F&I guy for my minivan was a total cocksucker and highly contentious. He angrily said "WHY?" when I declined extended service, and even said my warranty would be void if I didn't bring the car in routinely for the normal service checkups and if I didn't get the oil…

Yeah, I agree and would say it's almost a given that there must be a two-speed EU. The question is what are the speeds? Northern versus profligate Southern? The "core" Europe versus periphery? The debate is sort of in flux on this as a result of the crisis.

Like I mentioned in another post, I think that this bit of nationalism is simply a short term response to the economy, once growth and employment returns that will largely subside. A European federal state wouldn't start out as a superstate, more as a creeping institution. Banking union is a must and largely supported…

I was thinking more like 50 years, when the children today are in power, but I'd say even 25 years is doable (think back to how different 1989 was from today). Yes, nationalism is on the rise and people are euro-skeptic, but I'd say the forces/inertia for european integration are almost insurmountable. I would be…

Why stop there? Forget about saying German since it's just a collection of states assembled by Bismark, the Bavarians hate the fish heads in the north and let's not even start with how different the former East German provinces are. Paris is a different world than Avignon and the rest of France, you can't generalize…

Heh, I forgot about the stalling. Growing up I just thought that's what cars did.

My dad also swore off Chrysler after this car (we had a Volare station wagon). Water swishing around in the tailights, the side view mirror rusted out and was hanging by a cable, the floorboard rusted out so you could see the road underneath, etc etc. What a piece of shit. I wanted to buy one for sentimental/ironic…

Lily sings about somebody being hateful while the song itself is nothing but 3 minutes of hating on somebody. I like her quite a bit, but this song is awful. It's almost like she's being intentionally idiotic like in "he wasn't there" (which is a good track).

I love lily Allen but I hate this particular song. She comes off as an epic hypocrite.

So they've made $400,000 on bullshit snake oil. Sad.

You could have spared me a few seconds by putting "GMO" in the first thread. Anti-GMO is nothing but anti-science superstition. You may as well line up with the creationists.