Its the long shot, but the civil war thing crossed my mind also — but then I reviewed all the folks he’s planning to surround himself with, said f- it, and handed over $25.

Here’s the post by J. Alex Halderman (Computer Science Prof at U. Michigan, and a member of the group petitioning for the recounts): https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-election-was-hacked-look-at-the-ballots-c61a6113b0ba#.jrbfk79uv

It’s completely different from the NC gov race. There, he is hoping to cast enough aspirsions on the vote that it gets thrown out and the state legislature gets to choose a governor.

Pat’s trying to prevent his opponent’s inauguration by jamming the court long enough that he gets reinstated by default.

I don’t know how it would show tampering but in those very close states the easier to fudge electronic ballots came in 7% higher than other ballots for Trump according to another article.

The third party candidates had the same statistics the rest of us did, hell even Gary Johnson’s VP was stumping for Hillary towards the end. With HRC in office, we’d still have almost half the nation completely disaffected and angry, but we wouldn’t also be staring down the barrel of a worldwide economic collapse.

How do you get any actual evidence if you don’t examine the results?

Yeah, I don’t see any real evidence, either. But my personal take: I don’t think there’s any harm in doing a recount (provided it’s paid for, and done by Dec. 19th). I don’t think it’ll do any good, frankly. I don’t doubt that maybe there are a few thousand votes off either way, but not enough to flip a state, much…

I was reading on Twitter that some crazy dudes are recruiting a militia on Craiglist to ~fight for President Trump, and they’re threatning to shoot protesters (“racist blacks, Latinos and Jews”). On the wild chance that they start investigating the election and it’s proven that there was hacking or whatever, 1) what…

I raise you a Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty and see you a Goddamn it, Woman. Could Jill Nuclear Stein actually save the country? I’d gleefully end all criticism of her if HRC got elected as a result. Hell, I’d donate to her “campaign”, whatever the hell it was. Go Jill!!

I don’t expect anything to really come of this, but at the same time I’m secretly putting all of my hope and faith into this changing everything and making Clinton our president. DON’T LET ME DOWN, STEIN.

I can’t wait to hear Syphilitic Tangerine’s response to this at 3AM

California has mostly absentee paper ballots, which only have to be post marked on the day of the election. They are notoriously slow in counting them, but accurate. In Washington state, close races are also very slow in counting because they are completely mail in ballots. I would prefer slow but accurate and…

Nixon would have been worse, as he later proved.

Our democracy has been seriously undermined for a long time now. Since 2000 when the Supreme Court blocked the recount. And since republicans make it a standard practice to use voter suppression techniques. Our system needs a complete and total overhaul.

Even in liberal old Portland OR we have a billboard that says “Stop killing babies or else! - God”

The problem is that the machinery of our elections is so shoddy that we *can’t* trust the election results. We need to start paying attention to that, but as long as it is looked at as a partisan reaction we won’t ever fix anything.

We have lame anti-abortion billboards too... but none that graphic

I agree with this. I want fair elections and the person who won fair and square to take office, whether they are Democrat or Republican. We know the voting systems were hacked in Arizona and Ohio as a “trial run” by someone - maybe Russia, maybe someone else. It’s not out there to think someone did tamper with the…

Well said! I’ve been struggling to articulate my feelings on this issue, and you’ve summed them up quite nicely. On the other hand, I genuinely fear the unholy shitstorm that a recount will ignite among the Trumpites.