Was simply pointing out that they work well as family cars once you get past the “rear facing child seat” phase.... which for most kids doesn’t last forever.  

Worth it up to a point.... maybe $50-$100.... after that you are just paying for the Luxottica monopoly markup.  

Agree with you but as an FYI the cargo floor has a lower position that eeks out a bit more room.  Took me two years to figure this out.  

It is easier once they get out of Toddler phase as they take less stuff.  I drove a minivan for awhile but made a GTI work as our big family car when my kids were in preteen phase.  With a cargo carrier. 

I recently traded my 2015 GTI for a lightly used F31 328i wagon so I hear you. We took our pre teen kids on a 2000 mile road trip in the GTI last year with roof rack, but the extra foot or so in the back of the BMW makes a huge difference.

I am 5’11 and my wife is 5’9. We took our two kids (11 and 13) on a 2000 mile road trip last year in my 2015 GTI. They have plenty of room in back. I have a rooftop carrier for long trips that doubles the cargo space.

In fairness the Cots were missing both starting safeties and Darius Leonard their best defensive player.   Oh yeah.  Also their QB retired 5 weeks ago.  

On the flip side you are less likely to be hit by another car.... probably.   

In all fairness, you pretty much described the target market for these cars.   Aston isn’t making them to sell to old money types.  

I get what your saying, but cars are consumable and have a lifespan.   Also new consumers are born every day.  Even Camry’s still sell well despite lasting a long time.   

I think I read recently that the most typical statistical owner of an outback is a 40 year old father with a college degree making $100k.   

I agree with everything you said but surprised about the solid door comment. My wife had a 2014 Impreza hatch and at the same time I was driving a 2013 TDI Sportwagon. Everything about the Subaru felt cheaper. Doors especially felt light and cheap. VW famously has very solid doors so their sales people can hang on…

They don’t, but the Tesla has 9 of them. If I was parked in an airport parking lot for 10 days I wouldn’t want all of them parasitically sucking my 12v lead acid battery dry. No issue with a giant Lithium Ion battery.

No, but I drive a used BMW wagon with working turn signals, so I kind of walk the line between asshole and acceptable level of Jalop  (traded a GTI for it)

True.  Fit drivers aren’t compensating for anything.   

Is there any demographic that aren’t called assholes in the Jalopnik comment section? Tesla owners, Camry owners, BMW owners, Audi owners, Prius owners, CR-V owners,   bro-truck owners.... etc....

Tesla’s have the advantage of a giant battery to power the 9 cameras when the car is just sitting there.  

Yeah, everyone always expects “soft touch”, probably only because the alternative is that cheap textured plastic..... the real issue is weight and cost. A molded plastic dash component can be optimized for strength only where it needs it and can weigh a fraction of a stamped metal dash panel contributing to better…

I replaced the headlights on my GTI which also required removing the bumper, but similar to the Audi, I was shocked at how easy it was to put it in the “service position”.  My wife was horrified though when she saw the front clip sitting in the yard next to the car.  

My experience is with an MK7 GTI which is largely the same engine. I am always skeptical of how reliable tunes are as most people on the VW/Audi forums that tune these cars only seem to keep them for a couple of years, so this is good to hear. The engine internals are bulletproof, but with extra HP comes extra heat…