Seems like a lot of really tall people made the same choice as me (Sonata). I concur with everything you said.

Oddly the Fusion was fine but the Ford Taurus was awful! A lot of the “full size” cars were tighter fits than the midsize.

My problem with the optima was the shifter. its a “T” shifter that encroaches in the legroom compartment, Therefore my knee hits the “T” shifter button in normal driving, knocking it into “sport” mode. (or knocking it out- I forget). Anyway, that was a deal breaker.

The sonata is the same as the optima but has a “ball”…

*Bullshit*

There I called it. The cadenza is a tighter fit than the Sonata and optima.

Test drove them both.... but I guess it depends on body composition, so maybe its not BS for everyone, but it was for me.

6'9"

I tried to drive one of those once... so tight it was AWFUL.

(6'9")

for what its worth, Im 6'9" and can’t fit in a honda touring and fit in a sonata quite well.

I also can’t fit in a maxima.

Tom nailed it. I’m 6'9" and bought a sonata because there was no other better car that I test drove for a tall person. I don’t even put the seat all the way back and can still put a grown adult behind me! Something I cannot do in most “full size” cars.

its really comfortable, gets great fuel economy, is really…

Chevy needs to stop trying to create a top-tier performing sports car and instead build a dang pony car.

Look, when I want a chevy Camaro, I want a very usable, practical, cheap car that I can brag to my friends about. Its that simple.

I think Dodge gets that better than anyone.

Instead of pulling out every inch of…

I said early on that when the Camaro became more SPORTS CAR than MUSCLE/PONY car, then its competitive scape changed.

Now the Camaro is more BRZ and WRX competitor than Challenger.

I bought TWO 5th gen camaros, and the new ones don’t offer me anything. NOTHIGN!

They are overpriced compared to ford and challenger, they…

The average insurance rate in Ohio is $76.58/month...

Insurance is a weird weird thing.

I paid $230 a month on a 10 year old Mazda 3. Then I moved 8 miles away, and my insurance dropped by more than half.

Then by adding home owners and other cars, my rate dropped even further. today I pay $133 a month on a high dollar exotic with full coverage insurance and $42 a month on…

If she wins, then does this mean ALL of us get to sue the manufacturers who sell cars?

Heck, when I test drove the MAZDA 6 the salesperson told me to take my hands off the wheel and pedals because the car “pretty much drives itself”. I did.

But come to think of it, my dealer told me that my car would last forever...and…

I’d buy one if I found one cheap enough... lol.

I’m surprised by what I’m hearing honestly. I even looked at Autotrader and they are all way more expensive than comparable rams :(

Cant you just have one added? Sunroofs aren’t that challenging, and I know some of the main accessory systems used by most dealers support sunroof installs?

Really?

I find nissan barely discounts.

Rams sell for 1/4 MSRP on a bad day. (slight exaggeration).

But seriously, I’ve bought multiple rams around 30-35% off MSRP new...

2008:
“Black bumpers, wheels, and badges standard. Chrome package $1000"

2018:
“Chrome bumpers, wheels, and badges standard. Black package $1000"

But 1/3 people don’t get replacement tires. That was my point.

So if 1/5 people get a replacement tire, the warranty company pays out $160 for every $200 they bring in, or in other words make a $40 profit.

you can buy it for piece of mind and to mitigate risk, but purely from a value standpoint, you wouldn’t pay $40…

I think the point right now is its already an “issue”.

The Camaro is now more expensive than the corvette, and outperforming it. The vette starts at 55,500 and the camaro ZL1 starts at 63,795! The ZL1 is $74,205 fully loaded, and the Corvette Grand Sport is only 65,500 and the Corvette z06 starts at 79.

So how much…

Thats totally what I thought when I first saw it. “New sport”?

What happens when the parent company sells the child company? Or it goes out of business? Can you park a Ferrari in an FCA lot? Can you park a Pontiac in the GM lot? Can you part a Jaguar in a Ford Lot? What if it was a Jaguar built while they were owned by Ford?

Seriously theres a ton of grey area here... is there a…

The moral of the story is to evaluate your options and check the numbers... and don’t follow rules of thumb without vetting it first? haha.

I won’t deny anything you state.