I'm also rooting for Tesla.... but come on, this + the suit against top gear.... how many car companies out there sue journalists for bad reviews?

Suspicous or not, it's bad PR to call the NYT's a liar.

Telsa claiming libel after a review gives them a shit review?

Anyone saying Tesla is justified in this needs to stfu. Right or wrong Tesla clearly has history saying their reviewers lied.

Or buying your SO a car without their approval is a good idea. 

It's best bro.

The amazing part is, because they've appreciated, if you could've got one for MSRP and worked out monthly payments, you could have gotten it and made money. Hindsight is 20/20 though I guess, plus that's a pretty rare thing when buying a high end sports car.

Better in what way? The RX8 is a better car than a base soltice... Car and Driver even feels an RX8 is better than a GXP coupe.

I've always played GTA games, and found myself mostly just driving around, attracting cops, trying to outrun them, stealing nice cars, etc... from that perspective would you think Horizon is worth a look?

Wow.... that is insane. There go any hopes I might one day get that car.

Apparently. Then getting a 599 while it was in a period of MASSIVE depreciation. Making money by buying exotics, amazing.

The tests are designed for intel chips, and I'd be willing to bet that most software is as well.

Kate Upton is most certainly not fat, and Forza Horizon isn't a sim, but I wouldn't call it "pure arcade game". There's a pretty big line between Cruising California and Horizon, yet alone most NFS games and horizon.

GRID actually was out 2 years before GT5.... however I totally agree. Sure it wasn't realistic, but it was fun, and the physics had enough assemblance to reality that you felt like a boss.

I discovered yesterday that Suzuki makes a 4WD (with locking diff!) crossover hatchback about that size.... with a stick, for under $20k. 

Most of the cars in this list, big power. No ABS. Which really almost no one should be daily driving. Traction/stability control is one thing. Sometimes you want to break the tires loose or get sideways.... however I can't think of many times that ABS wouldn't be helpful.

Maybe this is the real reason Chris sold his!

Yeah, I love the mini, unfortunately the used car market is silly. Anything relivitvely new or low miles, you'll save maybe 1 or 2 thousand. 

I was looking at the Golf TDI a while back.... VW's hardly depreciate. Diesel VW's don't depreciate at ALL.  

Yep. For reference, the cheapest one I could find on autotrader, $59,500 w/ 14k miles. Wasn't that basically the MSRP?