How about a lightly used Jag? Get the XF Wagon

how about a CT-6? AWD. GORGEOUS (IMO), has the GM 3.6 liter which is really reliable... and back seat space for days. Plus a 2019 can be had near new for that budget.

The person wants a Guilia or a CLA35AMG, I don’t think large car is the first choice here. How about a luxury of a different mean, the Model 3. Quiet, fun, reliable for the most part. The long range AWD model is in their price range.

What kind of “experts” don’t suggest a Honda Accord Sport 2.0T which is a similar motor to the Type R.   Comes in a Manual Transmission and is a great family sedan and what I’d expect would be Honda reliability. 

Saw a Stelvio in brown the other day, looked fantastic.

I know a local guy with one of these in this exact color. It’s actually stunning.

I’ve got a Vesuvio gray Guilia right now, and the lease is ending in spring.

... at clouds, no less.

I enjoy and find value and manually shifting my vehicle - but not sure if I would in a completely electric vehicle.  What is the additional value?  Couldn’t I put it in first, mat the throttle and hold on?  (Do I get a more efficient use of the battery charge if I “shift” into another gear at higher speeds?)

And usually you can just shift into whatever gear you want from a stop and it’ll roll out without any issue. No more stalling or bucking or slipping the clutch for hill starts!

This X 1000

Counterpoint: If you expect someone who paid for a seat that reclines to not recline it because it inconveniences you, the monster is you.

I had a TLX for three years, and generally liked it for what it was. I honestly didn’t mind the dual screens - sometimes they felt redundant and unnecessary but other times it was helpful, like being able to have nav, music and HVAC info displayed at the same time.

Might as well go full JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

The Jaguar XF Sportbrake exists and yet you don’t suggest it what is wrong with each and every one of you

JAAAAAAG

If you live in Portland, you need practical, strong, and quirky. A little Soviet heritage doesn’t hurt, either.

A lot of them got exported to Russia, the caucus states and developed-ish countries in Africa. The ride height and Toyota drivetrain bits make them appealing to consumers who want a bit of luxury but have to deal with trash roads and trash fuel.

Don’t forget the Jag...that’s a nice piece.