Whatever you say, random internet person.

I actually don't. Perhaps that's your first encounter with an example? Or a discussion? The guy was saying how one cannot shave one's own back (so it's worse for men, woe is them), I said you can't wax your own vulva either.

Because you were trying to imply it was worse for men. Which is preposterous and incredibly sheltered.

Then we agree. If men hadn't shown 100% disinterest in women's problems for basically the entirety of human history and been such assholes wrt our bodies, I'd shed a tear for hairy men too.

Because I live in Bulgaria. How about you try living here as a woman and then get back to me with that lecture?

Yes, I do have capacity for compassion and if I'm faced with someone struggling with body issues I'm sure I'll sympathise regardless of the sex of the person. I was talking more on a general, systemic level - because the whole thing is presented as "this new bad thing that we have to deal with", and my only reaction…

Of course not. But I can't feel it. Should I try forcing it?

Oh yeah, "you're what's wrong with feminism", bla bla bla. Spare me.

Nope, still don't give a shit about what you have to say. I suggest you stop wasting your time.

Well, you might have a point here. But since there's also a similar "white tears" meme, I think the origins are elsewhere.

It just shows you how low their bar is. Anything other than unquestioning acceptance is man hatred. In its purest form.

I don't give a shit.

No, there's no more to my "argument" (it's actually an opinion) than what I've written: I can't bring myself to cry for hairy men's plight because they now experience the same pressures I've lived my entire life with. Sorry. Go elsewhere for sympathy.

I also have to pay a professional to rip the hair off my vulva. Are you going to shed a tear for me?

No, it's more or less the same. But I don't give a fuck. Just like no men ever did about female beauty standards except to further them. Is that fair enough for you? Or do you think women should be held at a higher standard of empathy?

Yup. It only Matters and Hurts if it's men who are hurt and for whom it matters.

Oh boo hoo. It's so telling that "man hatred in its purest form" and "bigotry"against men is a random internet comment. So telling.

So it's like going to the beach (or at a party or anywhere else) and seeing women with longer legs or bigger breasts or perfect skin. Welcome to comparing yourself to other people's bodies and realising they have something you don't and that gives them more power. The club is approximately 100,000 years old.

I'm sorry, I just can't bring myself to be sympathetic. All I've had from men on this issue is "It's gross, period. Shave it off." And now when they have the same problem I'm suddenly expected to be understanding and careful with their feelings? Why are the standards for women always higher? Why should I not have the…

Yeah. Me. It seems downright tone-deaf, because women have been trying to verbalise the problematic nature of body standards for like half a century and only got attention from other women, mostly. But now it's a problem for men, it suddenly has legitimacy and everyone has to care? And trotting out the same arguments…