On this note:

The problem here is that we’re pretending that A. the protests and the rioting are the same thing, trying for some reason to cover both with equal legitimacy; and B. that riots only target, or primarily target, “chain” stores. In fact, it’s typically a free-for-all. This IS what happened in Baltimore, and it’s what…

Pay attention. The American Revolution, and the protests that led to it, predate the foundation of America. I think it’s rather obvious that’s not within the parameters of what we’re discussing here, but good on you for reaching for the lowest hanging fruit possible.

Firstly, the Revolution predates an American context necessarily, so yea...not a valid example. I am, I think rather obviously, talking about within the context of America once it was, you know, established. Regarding the end of slavery — ironic choice given that it’s the story of a catastrophically failed rebellion —…

Where’s the proof that violent protest works in an American context? Hard to come by.

A fair response. Thanks for your thoughts. 

“So if tearing up property scares the shit out of the bourgeoisie then maybe it will work.”

Angry Jesus and Forgiveness Jesus are not mutually exclusive. You’re misrepresenting the purpose of this story, and in so doing, misrepresenting the intention of the young man’s post.

Eh, I mean Jesus is said to have forgiven the men who brutally tortured and killed him though, so I think it’s fair to say that’s the real takeaway from his teachings. This whole conversation is conflating two different things and elides the fact that holding people accountable for the bad things they do does not…

“but there’s a time and a place for everything, and clearly this ain’t it”

Lol, fair. Feel free to check my history if you’re worried about that. I don’t agree with everything that is written, which may be why I am still grey. But I am no troll. Thanks again.

I hope I don’t come off as a jerk. I appreciate the opportunity to have these conversations, which are not available to me, in most cases, professionally or personally.

Regarding India, the British did not establish administrative control over any significant swathe of the country until the middle of the 18th century — they were far, far more aggressive in the colonization and domination of the New World far earlier for multiple reasons, not least of all because they did not…

Your heart is in the right place, but you got a lot of things wrong here.I agree with your criticism of the poster who indicated that Hitler’s Germany was not motivated by a belief in white - read, Aryan - racial superiority. Certainly, that was the case and you are correct to push back against it.

The article indicates that this had nothing to do with breaking quarantine, and that it’s not within their remit to enforce it in any case. 

And they will go to the store and they will eventually fly on airplanes...I mean, I see all the time people saying things like, “yea, if you want to be an idiot then you deserve to get sick” and so on, but the reality is that these choices affect the entire population. 

Man, I agree with you almost 100%. But the reality is, the more people who get it, the more people they will give it to, and the more likely it is that grandmothers with no alternative but to go to the store are going to be exposed to it. So, I’d respectfully disagree on the whole “have at it with big gatherings”…

“ he openly referred to white people as the devil.”

So in some ways, yes. In other ways, I question the degree to which this is really self-awareness, vs. simply not reckoning with the implication of your choices because at the end of the day, you just don’t really think it’s that big a deal. And remember, she doesn’t recognize a shred of irony in the whole escape to…

I misinterpreted your “that’s why I qualified it...” statement as snark. It can be tough to parse tone, and I’d be lying if I said it’s not what I’ve come to expect. Apologies, I will take responsibility. I also felt we were having a good conversation until that point.