See, here’s the thing: we’re animals, for sure, but we’re also human. That means we have reasoning that allows us to change our social interactions. If all we had was our “instincts” you’d never see a woman who wanted to, say, fix cars - or a man who wanted to learn to sew. You said it yourself: how we’re raised has a…
I’m sorry if my tone is short or something. I think I’m just tired of having to explain these things. Women have been saying these things for decades now. We can’t seem to make men listen. I appreciate that you’re trying, I really do. Maybe you could teach some other men to question their behavior, too.
I get what you’re saying, but it cannot be the sole responsibility of women to teach all the men around them how to behave properly. Men have to take the initiative to seek out information in a respectful way. And, if they accidentally say or do something out of line (which happens, we’re all human), they should…
I appreciate your effort, I just didn’t appreciate your excuses. I realize that trying to unlearn this kind of privilege is tough, and that’s why I appreciate you trying. Just be careful of these excuses - they’re too easy to fall back on.
Or men could just stop behaving in ways they know are inappropriate. It’s not much to ask for, propriety at work.
0/10 Should not troll again.
I don’t really buy that. Like I get that it can be hard to unlearn this kind of behavior, but there’s really no little voice in the back of your head saying, “Maybe this is inappropriate”? It doesn’t even cross your mind? I’m pretty sure that it does and if you practice thoroughly thinking before speaking, these kinds…
Dudes like that aren’t clueless. They’re more likely to confess to cluelessness, though, because then they can duck responsibility, but I just don’t buy that these guys don’t know that their behavior is inappropriate.
It’s cool that you’re taking an initiative to educate yourself on this issue. I think managers using their time in that way could help make office environments more comfortable for everyone.
I don’t believe sexism is natural to men. I think it excuses a lot of their behavior to say so. I also think your assertion that only great women can “fix” a man’s true nature puts all the responsibility for taking care of sexism on women. I don’t have time to personally train all the men in my life to be better human…
You know that guy is dead. Even if just from embarrassment.
Of course. I didn’t say that bisexual cis people are more oppressed than trans people, I was responding to OP’s statement that the LG community has had trouble with the B and T communities. I’m sorry if it somehow came off like I was trying to play oppression olympics, but that is not what I said.
The movement has had problems with transgender and bisexual members. Trans and bisexual people are very often erased from discussion, and thereby any action for their rights is stunted. As the article says, if this sentiment originated from the trans community, I think it would warrant more unpacking. As it is…
The OP alluded to specific emotional struggles which are outlined in the article. Just because you want her to have said something doesn’t mean she said it. Read it again and find the specificity.
You’re really going to come at me with this weak bullshit? Let’s make one thing clear:
Also, there’s no shame in admitting you said something dumb. We all do it. I once spouted a pretty shitty opinion around here and was thoroughly flamed for it. But I admitted I was wrong, apologized, and did better next time.
Half-joking is still not all serious, and thus shouldn’t be counted as such.
Guess you missed the part where the article says that’s meant as a joke. But sarcasm isn’t for everyone.
Here’s a prime example of what this article is about. We’re all here to read about and discuss the topic of women’s emotional labor. There have been several articles on men’s emotional issues and how we can better ensure that men and boys are allowed a full range of human emotion. And yet here is a man derailing one…