So sorry to hear about your boyfriend. My boyfriend passed away too. It’ll be three years in March. I still cry at weird moments about it. Especially while watching RuPaul’s Drag Race, which was his favorite show.

Telling men to listen when it comes to experiences they have not had is not divisive unless you believe that men somehow know more about what it’s like to be a woman than women.

It’s okay. You’re trying a little too hard now.

Oh jeez. You’re trying to debate about sexism and you don’t even know what sexism means. Sexism is institutional bias against women. That does not exist for men. Men are not barred from any position because they are men, excepting only the positions that are associated with women and are therefore considered less…

I have brought up minorities. My point is that you can’t have a discussion about men’s rights and exclude the most vulnerable group of men there is - trans men.

But you are making that argument. If women always have to be worried about offending male allies, then the men aren’t allies at all, they’re playing the respectability politics game. It happens with race issues as well and it’s illogical. It also upholds the same shitty system.

But that’s the thing - if you want to learn about racism, you don’t ask a white person. If you want to learn about sexism, you don’t ask a man. Sometimes, as a part of feminism, men really do have to shut up and listen. It’s not because women devalue men or because we think men are stupid. It’s because women would…

Feminists are the ones who created domestic violence shelters for men. Feminists are the ones who created resources for male victims of rape. Feminists are the ones who actively work towards rights for transgender men, who you completely neglect to mention. Feminists are the ones against the draft for everyone, not…

Then if, as you admit, more men have political power, why is it not their responsibility to make things better for men?

No, we’re not losing allies. We’re losing men who think their emotions are more important than women’s. That’s not an ally. That’s someone who wants a cookie for behaving the way they should behave in general.

You’re not listening at all. You’ve already made up your mind. I’ve spent a lifetime listening to men’s voices. All the presidents, most CEOs, most people with power in general are men. If they really wanted things to change for men, all they’d have to do is enact some laws to protect them. If they’re the one’s with…

It’s not oppression. Calling it oppression belittles the very real oppression that many groups face. I’ll grant that men can be hurt under the system we all live under, but it’s not women that are hurting them. The system that holds men as more valuable than women is the same system that hurts them. That’s not the…

In what way is it harmful? What are the negative effects?

You made a claim. It’s not silly for me to ask you to back it up with sources.

No one here even brought up the idea of “another thousand years of oppression in the opposite direction”except you. All of these little ideas are coming from you.

Where is making fun of male emotions part of this joke? I don’t understand your logical jump here.

A black person saying white people are stupid will never be the same as a white person saying black people are stupid. It’s the same thing with this. You cannot erase the social context here. Trying to do that is illogical. You can sit here and insist that they are the same all you want, but I’m not seeing any proof…

As a Domme, I’ve seen the pattern you’re talking about, but I wouldn’t use the term “exclusive.” I’m not a pro, but I’ve topped guys from all ends of the socioeconomic spectrum.

I think the fact that women joking about misandry on the internet is seen as such a egregious act is proof of how women’s emotions and self expression is policed at very level. Like we are expected to take every form of abuse, from microaggressions to actual murder attempts, with stoicism and if we react or fight back…

So joking about oppressors is now the same as thousands of years of oppression? I’m not following your logic. Maybe because there is none to be found.