You can buy a brand new 2023 Ecoboost Mustang for $200 more that will beat this old piece of shit in every metric. At least old muscle cars are interesting to look at.

Why is the photo on this article of El Al planes? They literally have nothing to do with this story.

Not a jelly of the month club?

The sticker price on most new vehicles is dealbreaking for me 

While the guys in the photo who bought their first house for $40,000 and retired with a full pension at 55 are calling you lazy. 

The Kia Stinger - I’ll be honest, it was the Kia nameplate that killed it for me. Spending that kind of money on a Kia seemed absolutely stupid. If it was a Hyundai or Genesis, it would have been fine, but paying that much for Kia put me off the car. I still love them and would love to have one used, but I couldn’t…

Any niche, limited supply, performance-oriented, desirable/rare or non-appliance vehicle available only through a dealership.

Tesla Model 3. I like the size, the price, the exterior styling, and could, I guess, live with the interior. I can afford it, and in 2 or 3 years will likely be looking for something electric. But the company owner is a deal breaking flaw for me (and especially my wife).

So it’s a slow, FWD car that you probably can’t drive anyway because its street legality is highly questionable and the title is nonexistent?

If they want people to pay that price they need to release some first party AAA games for it. I’m not paying half a grand to play some indie games.

I want to be there. I’m ready to buy an EV. I will not buy another pure ICE vehicle. But I need more range and more reliable fast charging for less money. Right now, it’s not there. I’m not an early adopter. I need to tow for one. I drive long distances for work for another. And I drive in very cold climates for a…

Electric cars are still unobtanium in my price range. Also I have nowhere to charge at home and refuse to use public chargers in the current state of their scarcity and Ludacris prices.

My only disappointment with PHEVs is how thin on the ground they are. These should’ve been everywhere in the 2010's but looking at used options right now you’re stuck with either a Volvo T8 that will 100% break down a Pacifica PHEV that will 75% break down, or an Outlander PHEV that will 200% break down.

or you buy…

First Gear:

While the only 2 choices are Electrify America or give more money to the planet’s biggest douchebag, I’ll stick with my ICE. Add to that the cold weather issues. Good article also.

EVs are cool and neat and great, etc, etc, etc, but constantly-connected consumer electronics put unprecedented control over your property in the hands of the company that sold it to you (or, as they’ll likely claim, licenced to you).

A/C doesn’t use up refrigerant.  If it needs a recharge, it’s leaking from somewhere.  There is no such thing as “just needs a recharge”.

The lack of infrastructure plus the effect of cold weather on EVs are major detractors. Motor Trend just posted something about their experiences which confirms a lot of what my friends with EV have said:

It actually doesn’t suck, AT ALL!! It’s been several months since I’ve talked about it, but if you have the money to buy a new vehicle, and you have the time to wait, this is the ONLY way you should go. Shopping this way actually gives you access to the exact vehicle you want, rather than the bland crowd-pleasers that…

If the 12mpg doesn’t drain the wallet, the mechanic sure would. I still want it badly.