Its not surprising. Most dealer tactics revolve around the idea that the consumer is not well informed.

It’d be real interesting if they could quantify how many sales they lost after a potential Mach E customer visited their local Ford dealer and were greeted with markups and the usual dealership games. People buying $60k+ vehicles have options, they don’t need your car.

Yeah as these EVs stack up on dealer lots, and the Toyota lot is still a ghost town because they sell a 40 mpg+ hybrid vehicles for thousands less, I think manufacturers might wish they didn’t dive into the deep end of the EV pool so quickly.

Ah, of course, the typical “GM was on the right track, but.....”

136 hp, 2WD and 32 mpg highway seems pretty sad, but I guess it isn’t too far off from the competition.

Seems like this would be destined for the old GM lease deals on LeaseHackr where you could get 3 years, 30,000 miles for like $50 a month.

I’m in the market for a larger vehicle. There is no EV that size, and we wouldn’t want one anyway since we drive this car out into the sticks. I need to be able to refuel in a “one street light” town. That town has a gas station.

I assume their motive is to corner consumers into their “ecosystem” and get them to buy stuff and also get more user data to sell to people. Its not about a better user experience.

To be fair, the other signers are Chinese companies and likely Chinese nationals who really don’t have much of a choice if their government is telling them to sign this pledge.

I picked one of these warranty calls up by mistake years ago. I told them I drove a Ferrari F430 or something. The guy actually put me on hold for a minute, while he apparently was looking it up.

Tractor/truck pulls always gets me to stop when I see it on TV, which is rarely. The cartoonish vehicles with 8 motors strapped to them are pretty interesting to watch.

I wonder if a used yoke is pretty cheap considering the demand from those stuck with the yoke from the factory to replace it with a regular wheel. 

In my area, the cheapest ones (so $60-70k) are being driven to the tune of 60-90k miles on them. 

I don’t want to be the owner following a person who chose to replace a perfectly good steering wheel with that dopey “yoke”.

It is in the same ball park as the RAV4 Prime. I’m sure this is probably more fun to drive. The RAV4 is probably better at being a fuel efficient vehicle.

Looking for a comp, I found this one in Europe. Roughly $100k bought it, and it was restored by BMW themselves to “pristine” condition.

I get it that auction sites (or actual auction events) charge fees, but why wouldn’t you be taking this to a place that gets the deep pocketed enthusiast eyes on it? That is who you want right?

As someone interested in buying a minivan (a Toyota Sienna specifically), you’re probably at $1000/month on those too, especially after the dealer is done with them.

Guess this makes me feel better about the $1000 bill I just paid to get my 2012 up to date on some maintenance.

My house is worth roughly 30% more today than when I bought it in 2019. My payment went down during that time since I refinanced.