Porsche does make some improvements every year. Nissan changes it up slightly each year, but not really improving it since 2011 or 2012..

R32, R33 and R34 are hardly beautiful. Really none of them are beautiful. Good looking sure. But no beauties.

+1

Really 2008. It arrived in USA in 2008 as a 2009. MSRP was adjusted up mid-year.

Oh the mormons.

Blah blah blah, so insensitive, blah blah blah.

Nah David Tracy, you can go straight to hell on this one. ;)

I think they could easily get away with a 6 or even a 4.

Really how much interest are you earning on $5k.

Yeah it’ll absolutely get bought. These are good examples.

I donnow, by mid 30s I don’t see driving this.

You are their target market!

New NSX would be an awesome car if they shaved the price by about $40k. It still is an awesome car but just too expensive to be compelling compared to what else you can buy.

CRZ is the epitome of modern Honda disappointment. Supposed to be a fun Honda CRX, but Honda decided to make it a hybrid. It failed at both.

Yes!

Again, Mazda makes nothing I want to buy. I suppose I am just tired after two decades of waiting for another RX7. Although I gave up waiting a long time ago.

Yep! They make good cars but nothing really fun or exciting. Nothing youthful. And you’re right, they don’t even have the rock steady reliability anymore, so what’s the point?

Toyota has the untapped potential and the pervasive beigeness. But I don’t know if the expectation for anything great is quite as high as with Honda.

Yeaaaahhhhh I agree, but Toyota hasn’t been about excitement, or even pretended to be, in a long, long time.

Yes OMG I feel so awful for Fernando.