Everything about this comment is approaching perfection.

Glad to see Lotus focusing on what people actually buy vs what they claim to want to impress people on the internet. Very few people actually have the money, time and roads/tracks to actually enjoy a Lotus in its element. That unattainable fantasy is what people find so attractive. In reality something like a…

IIRC the SQ8 has air ride, active roll bars and rear wheel steering, which would all combine to allow it to cover a wide swath of the comfort-handling spectrum. I know the normal Q8 is not much taller than a modern station wagon when its air ride is slammed, so dynamically I bet it’s a wash; but on the comfort side…

W/o checking, I’d guess the SQ8 has more sidewall, suspension travel, and sprung vs unsprung weight

I’m almost certain that’s bullshit dry weight. That said, even at ~410-420lb, 178HP on a naked is gonna be a lot.

If I buy another street bike it will probably be a Triumph with a triple. Nothing compares to the triple honk.

Yep, all of this too. And you’d probably have to go to the racetrack on a regular basis to make the most of the dynamic differences between this and an SQ8.

A fast anything for $30K is damn near impossible. And that $150K wagon will be $30K............ eventually. There are a handful of cars on the road today that will retain their value BaT style......................... but I don’t think this will be one of them.

Again I accounted for that growth. Tesla sales would have to increase by 100x, which even factoring in population growth and emerging markets just isn’t possible.

Right, so the stock is not currently a good long term bet.  There’s no other material way to buy into the company.

The article is poorly written in typical Jalopnik fashion, but Tesla’s current valuation makes zero sense. They would have to ramp up production to 40M cars a year, which is about half the world’s output of cars, and 4-5x what the biggest car companies in the world do. With conventional ICEvs that aren’t constrained…

If I’m understanding the numbers right, they’d have to grow a hundredfold in a short period of time to justify these valuations.

These two sentiments are contradictory. 

I haven’t used Logitech but I’ve been a Fanatec customer for like 5 years. I agree. If you can stretch to get the entry level wheelbase with a load cell brake pedal it’s 100% worth it.

It’s cheaper to put power everything in everything than to have manual stuff in some cars and power stuff in others. Same door cards, same switches, same motors/regulators etc.

Really? Only a year away from a fully built fast charging network? EVs in all the different form factors available (I just bought a minivan), at prices comparable to ICE equivalents?

I think the paint matches, but the panel contours are so disjointed the light hits them differently. Like if you have a front door closed and a rear door open, they are going to look like different colors even if they have the same paint. 

Because some people don’t want to pay more money for less convenience?

Yea context always matters. It’s like news stories that say “there was a 1000% increase in deaths”.... and it goes from 1 to 10, because 20x more people were using said product etc. As a data dude shit like this drives me nuts.

This is back when mileage actually mattered too. I feel like the average car back then was lucky to break 100K miles.