Plenty of non-Nintendo consoles came with a pack-in. Sega Genesis had Altered Beast before switching to Sonic as a pack-in of course. TurboGrafx had Keith Courage in the Alpha Zones as a pack-in before Bonk’s Adventure I believe. Hell, even the Atari 2600 came with Combat.

I’ve played the first Dark Souls game, and for the most part I ‘enjoyed it’. But I’m getting incredibly sick of hearing people over hyping certain aspects of this series.

I'll be that that guy... it's probably polypropylene closed-cell foam, very close to 'structural foam' that they make tool carts and such out of though I think those are PVC.

What i mean by power being irrelevant is we have these new consoles, with about twice the power of the last ones, and little has improved. Some games can barely do 1080p with, what I consider, little fidelity increase. We're not getting the "bang for the buck" in performance, and yet games are getting worse and worse…

and yet despite it's underwhelming power, it has some of the most interesting and actually fun titles across all 3 console platforms.

In the immediate future, Captain Toad. Soon after that, Splatoon and Mario Maker. Interested personally in Devil's Third as well. Later next year, Xenoblade and Zelda.

Everyone says "software sells hardware" and that couldn't be more false. You can list those games and forget about 3D world which is one of the best mario platformers ever. Or Tropical freeze, pikmin 3, etc. Wii U has software.

Bayonetta 2 is amazing. Game is paused as I write this actually. Almost done with it, and I plan on playing through it again the moment I finish it. It's that good.

Not bad, but you didn't factor in the price of the towels. ;)

You could've just posted this yourself y'know.

Nope, you are taking away 1 Dimension, which in Nintendo it equals 1DS, so

wrong, you only like to believe what the internet feed you

if wii was a lucky strike, justify me the 870M software sales?

Lets do some math

The cost/price thing is crazy to me. I got a wii u deluxe for slightly under $300. Not only do i have a gaming console I often use the controller like a tablet... watching movies (netflix, hulu, amazon, youtube), surfing the web, checking email, mii verse is kind of cool, have loaded up some old school roms etc. …