Seems like splitting hairs to me, or at least getting pretty darn technical about something that could and should be pretty black or white, regardless of the practicality of his moral code.
I know there are examples of Batman’s actions resulting in deaths or allowing deaths, etc., but that’s because there have been 75…

I haven’t watched the episode of Batman The Animated Series to know which scene you’re talking about. Or if I have, I don’t recall how it happened. However, I see no reason why what Snyder’s Batman did in this scenario wasn’t self defense or how he could have neutralized him non lethally without endangering himself or…

I love that you talk about these things like they’re documentaries instead of fictional characters doing what the writers tell them to do.

Maybe they should just soften things and pretend nothing changes. Next Batman movie, Batman played by Ben Affleck acts and behaves like Batman without murdering and branding, and everybody pretends like it has always been this way. And same with Superman. Same actor, but he behaves like Superman, and everybody…

they *do* have a plan.

On the plus side, though, Suicide Squad will probably leave us eager to see more of Jared Leto’s Joker going head-to-head with Affleck’s Batman

Honestly I think what needs to be done is to do what Fox did when they made DOFP, do a soft reboot. This can be done by doing a Crisis on Infinite Earths adaptation where the Anti-Moniter destroys the Snyderverse in a wave of Anti-Matter. WB gets a second chance recreating the DCEU properly and we can pretend MoS and…

That’s an oversimplification. The nuance of his worldview, however clunky it might have been, is not easy to sum up a Twitter tweet. He created her as a reaction to violence in comics. In short, she was meant to be a flagship character of compassion and in how surrendering to that compassion could be a worthwhile…

Remember the whole thing where he brands criminals knowing that they will be killed as a result? There’s that, for starters.

You know, different points of view aside, I really agree with this. It really seems the filmmakers just had a boner for showing death and destruction. Portraying Superman as a heroic character was just a chore they were forced to do.

Also, I apologize for misunderstanding what you said about flying away.

We may differ…

It’s not that she won’t kill (soldiers especially), but that it’s a last resort. Murder is different from combat.

In the golden age comics Diana was Diana. John Byrne sent Hippolyta back to World War 2, yes. Hippolyta is Hippolyta tho. A totally different character. For fucks sake.

Eh. Amazon’s are a warrior culture.

This is one thing that bothers me more than anything. It’s not just the fictional characters that chose to kill. It’s the writers and producers and directors feel the need to steer the characters towards a situation just to make them kill.

It’s really insulting. It’s like someone woke up and decided, fuck the fans, we…

I’ll give you Zod and Doomsday, but Batman killing common criminals in BvS? That’s not world threatening stuff.

Very well put. FFS, even *Frank Miller* understood that much about Batman.

“Remember when Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord was a big deal because Wonder Woman isn’t a murderer?”

This is pretty much my big beef with the Murderverse.

Yeah sometimes death happens, but these heroes go out of their way to prevent it. It is such a big deal that when one of them breaks this trend it creates a…

Warrior culture, sure, but that doesn’t mean killing. After all, isn’t Diana’s defining trait that, above all else, she loves everyone and is striving for peace?

I’m going to turn off my Snark Machine and respond seriously because I think you thought that through, and you raise a good point. But I think I have a good counter.

Perhaps. Mainly, I’m commenting on the obvious disconnect the WB has with the audience. The very first real footage we get is of her killing people. After all the outcry about heroes murdering people in BvS and the low - yes, low - box office of that movie. That’s what they decide to lead with. Her killing people.