Oh, I didn’t say I don’t get sideways every chance I get driving around in the winter (where appropriate!) I’m just saying it’s completely controllable. He made it sound like driving a RWD car in the snow is scary on public roads because it just fishtails wildly all over the place and you can barely control it, lol.

There is quite a bit of clearance around the stock tires at stock height, but I’m not sure how much clearance you need to safely run chains - especially with regards to clearance between the tire and the spring perch. But the stock wheels are 7" wide, and you can go 9 or 10" in the rear on stock suspension without…

That’s no different than, say, driving on a racetrack in the summer, and driving on real roads in the summer. You don’t drove 10/10ths on public roads... A RWD car can behave perfectly normally in the snow when you aren’t purposely trying to hoon it. Especially with modern traction aids. It’s literally all but…

I daily drive my BRZ year-round here in Chicago, and it’s an absolutely blast in the snow! And yes, I go ice racing up in Wisconsin too! (I’m on plain ol’ studless winter tires, which have come a LONG way and will surprise you with how much grip they can offer, even on ice.)

Exactly! Planes are a great example. Commercial aircraft, and private aircraft are self-correcting (overdamped), and will always have a tendency to return to level flight. It’s actually sad how many times pilots have become disoriented in the dark, or in bad weather, and crashed, and the investigation determines that…

Sounds like a Viper, lol.

Yup! I take my BRZ ice racing up in Wisconsin. It’s such a great way to teach car control since everything happens more slowly, and nothing is better at teaching the whole “the car knows what to do” thing than a slick surface like that!

Too many people fight the wheel. I always tell them, “The car KNOWS what to do. It WANTS to correct the skid. It will steer where it needs to go. You just need to catch the wheel, and bring it back the other way to avoid snap oversteer (simplified statement). Work WITH the car. Don’t fight it.”

Correct. And more importantly than acceleration/braking is resistance to steering input due to the larger gyroscopic force. Larger wheels/tires = heavier steering = less nimble car.

And even worse than acceleration is steering, which gets heavier as a result of the gyroscopic forces acting on it. When I had my steelies with winter tires, it felt like the power steering motor was dying at highway speeds, lol.

I really hope you’re just trolling now...

That’s not how tires work. Lower profile tires are generally heavier due to the need for thicker sidewalls.

We’re talking about the Nurburgring; not an autocross course, lol.

Yeah, the initial reports from the video they have make this sound not much different than when a dear suddenly leaps out from behind some bushes right in your face at night.

The high level is not worthless. You need to start somewhere. It’s difficult to get into the nitty-gritty of who was at fault for an accident if you don’t even have any video of what occurred.

I think he more meant it at the high level: there will be plenty of actual video, so we will know exactly what happened. Obviously determining who is at fault and all that stuff is a new grey area.

I’m sure someone was supervising. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a failure of the emergency brake system.

I genuinely do not understand the folks who didn’t jump off. While that must have been terrifying to be on, they also had PLENTY of time to see and understand what was happening. They were all looking back. They all could see the clusterfuck of death going on at the bottom. All they had to do was jump like 3 feet down…

I completely disagree with you. In fact, you provide an excellent comparison. City buses these days look modern, and streamlined compared to buses of old. Some even look downright futuristic. School buses haven’t evolved quite as much, but still have improved on their looks with integrated signal lights, raked and…

I don’t think it would be terribly difficult. This is pretty close to what you described, and it doesn’t even look too bad. It’s really just the headlights that are the biggest problem. And the bumper, which could probably be restyled to look better while still meeting all of the requirements (I’m NOT saying it needs…