Where else can they cut weight, though at this point?

It’s not as simple as just doing an engine swap.

Ahh, I was referring to the BMW you mentioned.

Link to this price? Or are you not in the US or something?

It’s all interconnected. An OEM isn’t going to add another 100 HP without putting wider, stickier tires on the car. That wouldn’t make any sense. Wider stickier tires have more grip. More grip means the suspension is now over-taxed, which means stiffer spring rates, and fatter sway bars to make up for the added…

It’s not bad logic. It’s understanding what this car is. It’s meant to be a LIGHT, CHEAP, tossable sports car. You add all of the stuff I mentioned (and the stuff you said the STi name entails) and it is no longer any of those things. It adds weight, and it adds cost.

240 WHP is 80 more than the car has stock, or, to…

That car has a base starting price of $32k, and also weighs 400-900 lb more than the BRZ though.

Oh. My. God. Thank you for this excellent visual aid! Saved!

Because the ST is based off of an economy car platform. The BRZ includes the cost of designing an entirely new platform from the ground up specifically for one low-volume model.

People already rag on the interior quality of this car at its current price point.

The Chevy and Ford can handle that power because they are huge, beefy, heavy cars with huge, beefy, heavy parts. Light, powerful, cheap. Pick two. Or show me someone who does all three...

The Z is a good example, because it shows how expensive this car would be if people got what they wanted.

I own one.

Ugh. Here we go again. OEMs don’t just slap a turbo on a car and call it a day. I hear the same excuse over and over again. The OEM development and testing process is not at ALL equivalent to “Joe’s criteria.” Joe doesn’t care about his warranty. Subaru needs to offer a 60,000 mile warranty, which means they don’t…

It’s only half-assed if you don’t understand what would be required to increase power output. There’s a reason the Miata, which has been around since 1875, doesn’t have 300 HP either... but nobody calls that car out on it.

What everyone wants is for them to add 100 HP, which means a beefier drivetrain, which means beefier tires, which means beefier wheels and brakes, which means beefier suspension, which means beefier body and chassis, which means... you want a Genesis Coupe.

Go away, people. Quit trying to ruin this car.

What, exactly is half-assed about this vehicle?

A manual makes absolutely zero sense in this car.

Literally no idea, lol.

Meh. The WRX has some benefits, but it can’t hold a candle to the BRZ when it comes to handling, chassis balance, feedback, etc...

The BRZ is for the [small] subset of people who value those traits above everything else.