Ladylike always ends up reading as submissive, unassuming, “well-behaved” or whatever to me.

When I was starting my career 30 odd years ago, some asshat called me “sweetheart” on the phone when we were trying to negotiate a lease. I shot back and called him “dearie” and he apologized. It’s tiring that we have to still stand up to these old fucks, but it still has to be done, unfortunately.

This is such an interesting dissection of that scene. I really can’t remember how old I was the first time I read the book, but like everyone else, I found The Scene jarring and out of place. This article articulates something that I never realized was a big part of the problem: A girl using sex not for her own…

I thought he was high AF on cocaine when he wrote it. Made sense to me (in that vein).

My dad regularly chastises me for not being “ladylike.” I’ve asked him multiple times for the term for when men need to sit down, shut up, and look attractive. He won’t tell me!!

My dad used to pull the “ladylike” crap on me. Telling him that I learned how to curse, etc, from him never worked, it was only after I sharply retorted, “Since I am a lady, my behavior is, by its very nature, ladylike,” coupled with the death stare that I inherited from his mother, that he finally stopped.

To be fair, it IS standard to refer to people on the congress floor as “the gentleman from Iowa” or “the lady from Tennessee,” it’s just part of the decorum of the chamber. But, that is definitely not how he was using it. He was using it as “young lady, you better go get those sandwiches ready while the real men do…

Only accessories do it for me anymore. Clothes are pretty safe and boring and have been for as long as I’ve been an adult.

Also, here’s a Women’s Studies 102 tip: if you’re blaming women for the patriarchy, you’re really not getting it.

I think Harlow’s dance background has a lot to do with it.

You sound exactly like you just finished Women’s Studies 101.

Naomi and Gisele were adults. Gigi and Kendall and all seem like they still live with their moms, and have to ask to borrow the car.

If I had to pick clothes to exist in for the rest of my life, it would be the cape outfit at around :50. So functional, and also badass.

The difference between the fabric men’s and women’s clothes is made of can be pretty extreme.

Oh god. Oh god. Don’t get me started on my bitterness about how every company’s basic clothes for women have gotten more thin and flimsy as time has gone on. (This goes for jeans as well. Just TRY to find women’s jeans that are heavy denim, rather than thin and full of spandex.) Haaaaaaate.

If I knew what fuckwits thought all shirts should be fucking transparent, I would have them assassinated.

Oh no!! :( I swear the Mossimo tees are better quality than the $30 ones I’ve foolishly bought at J Crew.

Agree on BR. It’s a godsend for those of us who actually have to go to an office and dress up. I’m wearing one of their dresses now— fitted sheath dress with cap sleeves. You aren’t going to find anything like that at Old Navy. Or if you do, it will be jersey material and/or the fit will be bizarre. The clothing world…

So thin! Everything is see thru it’s just annoying. I have to wear double the layers for gap clothing. And not wearing an undershirt in a gap T-shirt is not alluringly, sexy transparent. It’s like being frumpy and naked at the same time.

I really liked the Gap favorite tee in extra long, and bought a bunch of them. When I re-ordered, they were tissue-thin crap.