The car isn’t available yet. Who are these people buying it? I get that you are an Acura employee or enthusiast. That doesn’t mean the company is beyond criticism. Rather than argue against the consensus opinion to the end, consider adapting to make the vehicle more attractive.

I (and many on Jalopnik according to the comments) think the dinner plate logo looks silly. Maybe reduce it by 1/3rd to find a happy medium.

That doesn’t make it pretty. Like I said, there had to be another way. Cadillac, Nissan, VW and many other manufacturers employ forward radar in a far less conspicuous manner.

Fords trucks have a much larger grille/front area. So the large logo doesn’t look so out of place. Also, the large grille matches the styling of the truck overall. The Acura version looks larger than the headlights and out of place in the context of the vehicles design.

There has to be a better way. It’s comically large, like a clown nose.

Wall Street is interested in GM’s 216% increase in profits since 2009. Barb is a big part of that. But their sales performances and market performance are not “completely unrelated.”

We haven’t really talked total asset value (TAV) in this “conversation.” I’ve brought up net gains and profits in which GM outpaced both Ford and Toyota over the last 5 years. I don’t own a GM product. My daily driver is a BMW if it matters and also own a 4Runner. Eight percent more in total valuation, but look at…

I don’t know if we are limiting the conversation to US Sales. Their stock valuation and growth doesn’t. GM is winning handily there. Global sales matter.

Ford sells plenty of midsized. Travel much?

Compared to Ford and FCAs driverless options? GM is leading the pack in autonomous vehicles and EVs. That’s something. They are also leading the pack in sales, growth, value per share and return on investment per share.

Which months were those? GM sold 984,909 pickup trucks in 2017 compared to Fords 896,764. These numbers exclude truck based SUVs and include both the mid sized and full sized offerings from both companies.

I think you ar incorrect. The year 3 refresh was always then plan for a 5 year model run. 2014 was the first year the GM twins outsold the F150 in over a decade. There’d be no reason to think the moved the refresh up—especially when they said back in 2013 that 2016 would be the refresh year and 2019 the next model…

Pretty sure GM has out gained everybody in light truck market share since 2009. 

2014 Silverado is the best looking of the modern trucks. I love the squarebody throwback front end.

The Tundra is realiable, but comes in fourth in reliability in the light truck segment—Behind the GMC 1500, Silverado and F150 (in that order) according to CR and JD Power. Its still ahead of the Titan and RAM. That said, let’s not act like it’s a 2009 Tacoma.

Point of order. RAM is no longer a Chrysler subsidiary. FCA separated Jeep and RAM from the Chrysler family so they could be owned separately. It allows them to retain or sell the brands individually whether the stay with Chrysler/Dodge or not.

Im not convinced. I feel the camera is closer to the drivers seat.

How so? The automated driving test are reportedly successful. Thats all that matters at this point. The design will probsbly go through five or six evolutions prior to production.

Engineering prototype. Not much energy put towards design. Function over form at this point.

It’s a prototype to proof an engineering concept. I doubt they put much energy towards design. Why would you at this point?